PL/1 was a nice break from extending FORTRAN IV with BAL (Assembler). Wow real pointers and character strings!
I seem to recall there was a version on the Prime minicomputers - IRC they had a version of the PIC OS. Primos came out of the Boston area, was a son of Multics and a brother OS to Unix. Wiki proves my memory fairly accurate - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Computer On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Jeffrey Janner wrote: > PL/1, boy that brings back memories. > I worked for years on a mini-computer who's O/S was written using a > combination of a PL/1 subset and machine code. Really nice, Unix-like O/S, > that had Unix beat in some areas, lacked behind it in others. Really kind of > miss it these days. > However, I don't think it really took 4+ years to really learn PL/1. I > seemed to have pretty well mastered it in a semester -- maybe a little > longer. I really liked how easy it was to get done what you needed to do. > And you'd think with IBM's clout it would have gotten better penetration, but > they seemed more intent on other technologies. Probably not enough > commission in it compared to COBOL. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: michel [mailto:compu...@videotron.ca] >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:50 PM >> To: Tomcat Users List >> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant >> >> Don't know about you, but I was left really, really worried about >> actually >> being on a project under those conditions. >> >> >> Lots of room for doing a crash-and-burn ... >> >> >> Back when I started in the business in 1982 I had to learn PL-1, the >> best >> darned language that never managed to get a good market share. It was >> said >> that it took four years to really learn how to use it. These days all >> you >> need is a crash course to be an expert! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brian" <bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com> >> To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <users@tomcat.apache.org> >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:42 PM >> Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant >> >> >> That is true sometimes. I was hired by Arthur Andersen (RIP), they sent >> me >> to an SAP crash-course, the tipe of course that shows you zillions of >> Powerpoint slides and you get out of the course with tons of doubts. >> Then >> they sent me directly to a proyect, and I bet they billed a lot for my >> time. >> I was introduced as an experienced SAP consultant. >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: michel [mailto:compu...@videotron.ca] >>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 07:35 PM >>> To: Tomcat Users List >>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant >>> >>> I once worked for a consulting company that wasn't a big 5, but had >> some >>> pretty good contact. They hired me out of Montreal on Friday, had me >> in >>> Denver on Sunday and spending 2 weeks in a training center so I >> could >>> become an instant 'expert' they could hire out for big $$$ on >> different >>> projects. >>> >>> Then I spent 3 months at home while they tried to get some contacts, >> and >>> then got canned when they couldn't, then the guys who hired me got >> canned >>> ... >>> >>> I can't figure out how these companies can get away with this >> nonsense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Martin Gainty" <mgai...@hotmail.com> >>> To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org> >>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:13 PM >>> Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant >>> >>> >>> >>> triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a lamberghini >> in a >>> 1000 brooks brothers suit >>> >>> add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg >>> >>> BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a >> hindi >>> translator for spanish >>> >>> how about unisys??? >>> >>> Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU >>> Martin Gainty >>> ______________________________________________ >>> No altere ni interrumpa por favor esta transmisión. Gracias >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant >>>> From: cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com >>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org >>>> >>>> I should have copyrights on my name. LOL >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian <bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM >>>>>> To: Tomcat Users List >>>>>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Esto si que sonó gracioso. >>>>> Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de >> los >>>>> cuales >>>>> se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat >> guy. >>>>>> But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one >> of >>> the >>>>>> Big-5. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container >> while >>>>>> Websphere is an application server. >>>>>> Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to >>> migrate >>>>>> it >>>>>> to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an >> application >>>>> server. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Jorge >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Schultz >>>>>> <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To whom it may concern, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote: >>>>>>>> My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over >> a >> J2EE >>>>>>>> web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and >> we >>> are >>>>>>>> looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production >> instance of >>>>>>>> tomcat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone >> to >> set >>>>>>> it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean "trusted"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch >> consulting >>> firm >>>>>>>> that could provide these services? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be >> very >>>>>>> happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an >> instance >>>>>>> of Tomcat for you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - -chris >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) >>>>>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - >> http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> iEYEARECAAYFAkyc5o4ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PAjugCgiACwh5crjW+HXMKbzAWc+ >>>>>> A27 >>>>>>> dC4AoJjm6Dgs7FbMPrD3VBBdZl48VXas >>>>>>> =vADj >>>>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > Confidentiality Notice: This Transmission (including any attachments) may > contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. 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