i always wondered by the big 5 billable rate started at 100 /hr BTW: dont forgot your armani suit and the lamberghini! Martin Gainty ______________________________________________ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité
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Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. > Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Tomcat Consultant > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:51:42 -0500 > From: jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com > To: users@tomcat.apache.org > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Fisher [mailto:dfis...@jmlafferty.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:28 PM > > To: Tomcat Users List > > Subject: Re: [OT] RE: Tomcat Consultant > > > > PL/1 was a nice break from extending FORTRAN IV with BAL (Assembler). > > > > Wow real pointers and character strings! > > > > I seem to recall there was a version on the Prime minicomputers - IRC > > they had a version of the PIC OS. > > > > Primos came out of the Boston area, was a son of Multics and a brother > > OS to Unix. Wiki proves my memory fairly accurate - > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Computer > > > > That's the system I worked on. At one point, I worked in a university environ > and had access to source. We did a few tweaks to allow better support for > hundreds of students, or the occasional custom tool/command. It was really > nice to work in something like PL/P for that stuff. > > I'm not sure what you meant by PIC OS, unless you meant the Pick Database > model, which was originally implemented as a combined OS/DB setup. Prime did > offer a version of the DB model, called INFORMATION, which ran on the > standard OS. It was a really nice rapid deployment engine. They also had a > version of Oracle available for it, though I never used it. I had used some > other 3rd-party relational DB products, and INFORMATION ran rings around > them. The Pick data model was designed with standard business data in mind, > so it had some useful features that ran fairly fast. I work in Oracle now, > and am quite impressed with its speed, but having to do all those table joins > can sometimes be a real pain. > > > On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Jeffrey Janner wrote: > > > > > PL/1, boy that brings back memories. > > > I worked for years on a mini-computer who's O/S was written using a > > combination of a PL/1 subset and machine code. Really nice, Unix-like > > O/S, that had Unix beat in some areas, lacked behind it in others. > > Really kind of miss it these days. > > > However, I don't think it really took 4+ years to really learn PL/1. > > I seemed to have pretty well mastered it in a semester -- maybe a > > little longer. I really liked how easy it was to get done what you > > needed to do. And you'd think with IBM's clout it would have gotten > > better penetration, but they seemed more intent on other technologies. > > Probably not enough commission in it compared to COBOL. > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: michel [mailto:compu...@videotron.ca] > > >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:50 PM > > >> To: Tomcat Users List > > >> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant > > >> > > >> Don't know about you, but I was left really, really worried about > > >> actually > > >> being on a project under those conditions. > > >> > > >> > > >> Lots of room for doing a crash-and-burn ... > > >> > > >> > > >> Back when I started in the business in 1982 I had to learn PL-1, the > > >> best > > >> darned language that never managed to get a good market share. It > > was > > >> said > > >> that it took four years to really learn how to use it. These days > > all > > >> you > > >> need is a crash course to be an expert! > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Brian" <bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com> > > >> To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <users@tomcat.apache.org> > > >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:42 PM > > >> Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant > > >> > > >> > > >> That is true sometimes. I was hired by Arthur Andersen (RIP), they > > sent > > >> me > > >> to an SAP crash-course, the tipe of course that shows you zillions > > of > > >> Powerpoint slides and you get out of the course with tons of doubts. > > >> Then > > >> they sent me directly to a proyect, and I bet they billed a lot for > > my > > >> time. > > >> I was introduced as an experienced SAP consultant. > > >> > > >> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: michel [mailto:compu...@videotron.ca] > > >>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 07:35 PM > > >>> To: Tomcat Users List > > >>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant > > >>> > > >>> I once worked for a consulting company that wasn't a big 5, but > > had > > >> some > > >>> pretty good contact. They hired me out of Montreal on Friday, had > > me > > >> in > > >>> Denver on Sunday and spending 2 weeks in a training center so I > > >> could > > >>> become an instant 'expert' they could hire out for big $$$ on > > >> different > > >>> projects. > > >>> > > >>> Then I spent 3 months at home while they tried to get some > > contacts, > > >> and > > >>> then got canned when they couldn't, then the guys who hired me got > > >> canned > > >>> ... > > >>> > > >>> I can't figure out how these companies can get away with this > > >> nonsense. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "Martin Gainty" <mgai...@hotmail.com> > > >>> To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org> > > >>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:13 PM > > >>> Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a > > lamberghini > > >> in a > > >>> 1000 brooks brothers suit > > >>> > > >>> add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg > > >>> > > >>> BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a > > >> hindi > > >>> translator for spanish > > >>> > > >>> how about unisys??? > > >>> > > >>> Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU > > >>> Martin Gainty > > >>> ______________________________________________ > > >>> No altere ni interrumpa por favor esta transmisión. Gracias > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400 > > >>>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant > > >>>> From: cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com > > >>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org > > >>>> > > >>>> I should have copyrights on my name. LOL > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian <bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>> From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com] > > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM > > >>>>>> To: Tomcat Users List > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Esto si que sonó gracioso. > > >>>>> Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de > > >> los > > >>>>> cuales > > >>>>> se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat > > >> guy. > > >>>>>> But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one > > >> of > > >>> the > > >>>>>> Big-5. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container > > >> while > > >>>>>> Websphere is an application server. > > >>>>>> Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to > > >>> migrate > > >>>>>> it > > >>>>>> to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an > > >> application > > >>>>> server. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -Jorge > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Schultz > > >>>>>> <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > > >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >>>>>>> Hash: SHA1 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> To whom it may concern, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote: > > >>>>>>>> My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over > > >> a > > >> J2EE > > >>>>>>>> web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and > > >> we > > >>> are > > >>>>>>>> looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production > > >> instance of > > >>>>>>>> tomcat. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone > > >> to > > >> set > > >>>>>>> it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean "trusted"? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch > > >> consulting > > >>> firm > > >>>>>>>> that could provide these services? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be > > >> very > > >>>>>>> happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an > > >> instance > > >>>>>>> of Tomcat for you. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> - -chris > > >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >>>>>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) > > >>>>>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - > > >> http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>> iEYEARECAAYFAkyc5o4ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PAjugCgiACwh5crjW+HXMKbzAWc+ > > >>>>>> A27 > > >>>>>>> dC4AoJjm6Dgs7FbMPrD3VBBdZl48VXas > > >>>>>>> =vADj > > >>>>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> ----- > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> ---- > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > - > > >> -- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > ___ > > > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This Transmission (including any > > attachments) may contain information that is privileged, confidential, > > and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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