Thanks Philippe for raising this issue

Maybe it's time to take a step back to better analyse the situation and where 
we want to go.
Because we don't want to be the only ones using the best framework. 

What need to be done ?

If we promote Wicket right now, we will end up with a big failure.
In marketing, you don't sell the product, but the product's perception people 
have.

So what could be the plan ?

I would say, in that order :

-up to date documentation
-user friendly documentation
-more exemples for beginners

and, once it's done, I repeat, once it's done,

-marketing slides for decision makers
-more buzz in any java/web forum to promote wicket


François

Le 5 févr. 2013 à 09:52, "Chris Colman" <chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com> a écrit :

>> your loosing the focus pretended to be justify before: "marketing",
>> not tech. and many people "first see", later "think" :)
> 
> I think the problem is that most good software engineers see 'beauty' in
> the elegant component based, object oriented architecture of Wicket - we
> can all go "oooh" and "aaaah" just thinking about how truly beautiful
> Wicket has been 'engineered'.
> 
> We see beauty beyond the external presentation.
> 
> People out in the real world however, or developers who don't get the
> "oooh/aaah" value from elegant design and architecture, are usually
> 'beauty is only skin deep' people - and given then don't care about
> elegant engineering 'under the hood' their evaluation of the 'goodness'
> of something is based totally on the appearance of the 'skin'.
> 
> I think we have to grasp the concept that there are two different types
> of people and they're on opposite ends of the spectrum - the less
> 'engineering' someone is the more they crave 'funky look and feel'.
> 
> Because of the above, and maybe I'm going out on a limb here, IMHO
> Wicket's much wider adoption is totally reliant on improving the Wicket
> website's 'looks' to newcomers on their first visit.
> 
> Regards,
> Chris
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