Sounds about right... I did my endorsement, had the bishop sign it and deliver it, etc. Then I tried to register for class a week later, at the proper time. I had a hold for registration. I called and they said that my endorsement had never been handed in. I was surprised, so I called the bishop. He told me that he had hand-delivered it and gave me the name of the person that he gave it to. They, of course, denied that it had ever been dropped off. I guess that was easy, since I was just a student and couldn't do anything about it. So, my bishop called and ripped them up. They were then kind enough to let me register, but gave me one week to get another endorsement. Pretty nice, huh? They screw up, and I have to fix it. I really had to point out the dishonor of such an approach-- forcing me to fix their mistakes. The reply was, "If you want to register, you really have no choice." Well, clearly, one does not require honor oneself to police the honor of others.
Andrew -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Jorgensen Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:39 AM To: BYU Unix Users Group Subject: Re: [uug] Don't portscan from on-campus I wanna get sent to the Honor Code Office for that. Then I can look them straight in the eye and say, AJ: "Do you know what portscanning is?" HC: "No..." AJ: "Why am I here?" HC: "Well, OIT said..." AJ: "Is my hair too long?" HC: "...it's just that..." AJ: "Did I cheat on a test? Is my belly-button showing?" HC: "Well, you see..." AJ: "Did I make out in the Dorm lobby? Am I wearing the wrong backpack?!?" And, well, it would go something like that. Then, of course, I would be expelled because they have that kind of power. My wife has a friend who was merely accused of some wrongdoing. The Honor Code Office wouldn't tell her who made the accusation, had no evidence that anything ever actually happened and threatened to expel her if she didn't write a formal letter of apology for doing whatever it was they thought she did. She wouldn't write it (cause she didn't do it) so she was expelled. Even funnier (though not as serious) my little sister was once given a hold because the Honor Code Office didn't believe that she had personally signed her ecclesiastical endorsement. That's right, it was signed with her name, but they didn't believe it was her hand doing the signing... Wow. Wade Preston Shearer wrote: > although i think that it is dumb... it is their network, so if they want > to restrict that... they can... but... > > their response of... > > "as a BYU student this behavior is unacceptable and if it > continues will be reported to the honor code office" > > > ...is a stupid! > > why is everything so extreme? what in the flying fig newton does port > scanning your own server have to do with the honor code office? > > why can't they simply inform you that BYU has a policy against port > scanning from on campus? > > > On Tuesday, Aug 26, 2003, at 09:39 US/Mountain, Hans Fugal wrote: > >> Naturally you shouldn't be portscanning other people's computers >> anywhere, but don't even try portscanning your own off-campus server >> from on campus because BYU appears to be monitoring their logs for >> things. That's reassuring. The fact that they were two weeks late in >> contacting me about the portscan I did weakens that feeling of >> reassurance, though... >> >> When I notified them that I was just scanning my own server to verify >> the firewall they politely said 'as a BYU student this behavior is >> unacceptable and if it continues will be reported to the honor code >> office'. I suggest you just stay off the radar and avoid portscanning >> from on campus period. >> >> -- >> Hans Fugal | De gustibus non disputandum est. >> http://hans.fugal.net/ | Debian, vim, mutt, ruby, text, gpg >> http://gdmxml.fugal.net/ | WindowMaker, gaim, UTF-8, RISC, JS Bach >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> GnuPG Fingerprint: 6940 87C5 6610 567F 1E95 CB5E FC98 E8CD E0AA D460 >> <mime-attachment>____________________ >> BYU Unix Users Group >> http://uug.byu.edu/ >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> List Info: http://uug.byu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uug-list > > > > > ____________________ > BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ > ___________________________________________________________________ > List Info: http://uug.byu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uug-list > ____________________ BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ ___________________________________________________________________ List Info: http://uug.byu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uug-list
