I noticed that Jockey is on the list of Ubuntu contributions--I didn't know it 
originated with Canonical. It is a pretty slick system for dealing with binary 
drivers.

I think the Ubuntu contributions get under-represented because of the practice 
of tying Launchpad issues to the upstream bug tracker. This makes it easy to 
submit resolutions directly upstream. That is the way many issues I have 
followed reach resolution.

Ubuntu also works very closely with Debian. Many Ubuntu issues are addressed by 
submitting new packages into Debian unstable. I suspect that some of the 
contributions attributed to Debian actually originated with Ubuntu developers.

I don't think treating Ubuntu separate from the Debian community it is a part 
of is exactly fair. Ubuntu has been a force in Debian pushing it to innovate in 
ways that improve polish and integration for the end user. At first it was a 
real challenge for Debian to adjust to the Ubuntu contributions, but the last 
couple of years it seems to happen so smoothly that it goes largely unnoticed.

I have no statistics to back me up, but if you want me to I'll go ahead and 
quote some.

Contributions to Linux plumbing are essential, but I don't believe that this is 
the only metric for determining if a distribution is "parasitic".

Richard

On Tue 24 November 2009 11:44:40 Andrew McNabb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 09:08:17AM -0700, Robert LeBlanc wrote:
> > 
> > As far as Ubuntu not giving back to the community. I would say this is
> > false. Many times looking through Debian's PTS, I see bug reports and
> > patches submitted by Ubuntu users. The Ubuntu community also tries to get
> > packages in Debian where it fits Debian's model.
> 
> Ubuntu indeed contributes some bug fixes back (which is great).
> However, the number of Ubuntu-originated bug fixes is quite small
> considering its market share, and the number of big contributions is
> negligible.
<snip>
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