On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:05 PM, James Carroll <jlcarr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From my perspective, the problem is that the distribution shouldn't be
> changing where a package puts stuff. If a package is doing something "wrong"
> then they need to work with the upstream to fix it, if they just fix it
> themselves, then when I go to the help files for grup, apache, etc, and they
> say: edit the conf fine found here /path/path/path, and I go there, and it
> isn't there..... AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH....... Why did my distro move
> it?
>
> This is part of the larger issue with debian "fixing" things themselves
> instead of working with the package to fix things so everything is the same
> across distros.
>
>
>> I like the way Debian has changed Apache. Enabling and disabling sites
>> and modules seems much more intuitive to me than how non-Debian-based
>> operating systems handle it. Also, having an /etc/apache2/apache.conf
>> makes more sense than /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf. Isn't /etc/ for system
>> configs? Why make yet another config directory beneath it? Just my
>> opinion though.
>>
>
>
> See, this is the heart of the problem. I don't care if you "like" how they
> changed things, they shouldn't be changing stuff willy nilly on their own.
> If they have a suggestion about how to make apache better, they should be
> working with apache to get their idea standard, not just sticking it in
> because they think it is shiny.... That makes getting help or even
> understanding what is going on a beast.
>
>
This basically says that the upstream needs to "choose" a distro and
everyone else loses. Would you like that Apache chooses Debian's config as
the standard? Then I'm sure that we would see other distros going against
that to keep things the same for their users. If you don't like Debian's
Apache config, you can certainly use the "default" Apache config and it will
work just fine. I don't think that it is possible for upstream to always be
the definitive answer for things like this and I think most developers don't
give a care. As mentioned recently, it comes down to personal preference.

Robert LeBlanc
Life Sciences & Undergraduate Education Computer Support
Brigham Young University
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