Ive never used email to read or write to this group. The yahoo web interface is not as good as a forum, but its gradually moved closer, eg you can view messages by thread.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/messages There were attempts to setup forums some years ago, but there were never enough people who signed up. Frustrating though it is that inferior technology is used, this group achieved the critical mass of users necessary to make it some sort of community, and thats hard to replicate. And as for forums & moderators, it can be quite a drain on those who do the policing. All too easily an 'us and them' thang can appear at times of strife. The 'light touch' approach on this list seems to have mostly worked ok, and avoids replacing the nasty feelings from ugly arguments, with nasty feelings that debate is being supressed. Arguments here end in the natural way, they fade off when the participants themselves get bored of it, or react badly to advise to chill out, and leave permanently. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rather sad when a group that tries to push new media subscribes and restricts > itself to old > technology like email. > > If this was a forum, there would be post and threads. If there were personal > attacks and > such, a moderator could delete the post or simply close the thread. That's > the beauty of > forums. They are moderated. People would never get away with some of the crap > that > goes on here. If someone slagged someone in one of the Help areas, a > moderator would > just remove that post. > > As I said way back when the forum idea was brought up, I prefer forums. My > inbox is > already full of things that require my attention. I dont really want more > email to distract > me or clutter up my mind. You say you would never go to a forum yet you visit > your inbox > all the time? I dont understand that thinking. As Mr Meade said, you could, > if you so > desired, have everything emailed to you anyways with a forum. > > Of course...if nothing changes, then nothing changes I guess. I didnt start > the group and > was not involved when the ground rules were laid out and will probably leave > the group > long before it ceases to exist. > > For what it's worth, and not like they matter at all, those are only my > opinions. > > David > http://www.taoofdavid.com > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Howe" <rupert@> wrote: > > > > Yeah, a lot of us read in threads anyway, in gmail or whatever. > > > > Even if each discussion was in its own 'room', with space to continue > > a discussion for longer than this list allows, those rooms/threads > > would still be poisoned and killed by personal slanging matches and > > shouting. > > > > I need my emails, too - I'd never visit a forum. But that's just me. > > > > I wonder if what we need is a Blog. Kind of like a Yahoo VB List > > Extra. Longer discussions could be taken out of the group and > > continued on a blog for discussion in text comments and video > > comments that we can subscribe to? > > > > Rupert > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <taoofdavid@> > > wrote: > > > > > > It's a real shame that this group never went the way of a "forum". > > Would could have all > > > those things you listed in different sections on the forum and then > > people could post in > > > the respective areas. > > > > > > Those looking for help wouldnt have to be inundated with things they > > have no interest in > > > and people that want to duke it out could do so off in a different area. > > > > > > Hindsight... > > > > > > David > > > http://www.taoofdavid.com > > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <jay.dedman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got > > > > > something negative to say about another person, about their > > > > > motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal > > slanging > > > > > match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open > > > > > and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here. > > > > > > > > andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296 > > > > i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary. > > > > We are trying to help each other do better than before. > > > > > > > > after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what I > > > > thought the Videoblogging list was for: > > > > 1. help new people to start videoblogging > > > > 2. discuss new tech and its implications > > > > 3. discuss what we need...and build it! > > > > 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after > > > > we agree what it is) > > > > 5. discuss creator's rights > > > > 6. gossip and fight > > > > > > > > we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a > > group dynamic. > > > > doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for it....but here we are. > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://jaydedman.com > > > > 917 371 6790 > > > > Video: http://ryanishungry.com > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > > > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ > > > > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 > > > > > > > > > >
