Jed: I can always be wrong.
I take it that you are, because I'm not.
I take it that the photo is not the best so doesn't show everything; and
heat was so bad at one time that it spread a long way.
Jed:Sailors seldom break regulations when they know it might well kill
them.
But put them under enough pressure of losing their jobs etc and promises
that all will be well and .....
Jed: A major fire that could cause a 30' streak would be
life-threatening to everyone on board. It will fill the whole ship with
smoke. Especially a streak that magically appears 70' away from the
fire, with no streak near the fire! That would upset sailors because
they tend to be superstitious. It would bewilder them. Or anyone. It
should bewilder you!
Well you can say that from hindsight, it would bewilder me from my
perspective in the NOW. But at the time they would have been told the
ship was unsinkable and whereas in other ships it might be worrying,
there was nothing to worry about in this ship because - unsinkable
unlike other ships.
Jed:I do not think you have worked in a hazardous trade such as the
merchant marine. My father saw someone killed or maimed at the docks on
nearly every voyage he made. He came close to being killed, and he was
finally maimed, almost losing his arm. It was disfigured for the rest of
his life. Sailors did not then and they do not now casually disregard
regulations when there is something like a fire large enough to scorch
the outside of the ship.
I have worked down the docks, one of the big cranes fell over - there
was a big coverup after that - all the cranes had not followed safety
regulations.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jed Rothwell" <jedrothw...@gmail.com>
To: "Vortex" <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 23:38
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone
ROGER ANDERTON <r.j.ander...@btinternet.com
<mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> > wrote:
So, you are not sure and only "think" and could be wrong.
Well, pretty sure. I can always be wrong. (I suggest you practice saying
that to yourself: 'I can always be wrong.')
I would have thought the heat from the coalfire would have gone along
the hull and be even was where the photo was not showing it.
It is not going to jump ~60' away from the bunker that is on fire, and
then produce a 30' streak on another part of the hull while having no
effect where the bunker is. The streak will not then vanish. That's
preposterous.
They didn't get back from the voyage to be told off for sailing under
dangerous conditions; so not out of the question that they were breaking
regulations.
Sailors seldom break regulations when they know it might well kill them.
A major fire that could cause a 30' streak would be life-threatening to
everyone on board. It will fill the whole ship with smoke. Especially a
streak that magically appears 70' away from the fire, with no streak
near the fire! That would upset sailors because they tend to be
superstitious. It would bewilder them. Or anyone. It should bewilder
you!
Jed: Regulations back then were tight.
From my experience regulations are broken when forced to do so by those
in charge; same would apply then.
I do not think you have worked in a hazardous trade such as the merchant
marine. My father saw someone killed or maimed at the docks on nearly
every voyage he made. He came close to being killed, and he was finally
maimed, almost losing his arm. It was disfigured for the rest of his
life. Sailors did not then and they do not now casually disregard
regulations when there is something like a fire large enough to scorch
the outside of the ship. They are not suicidal. Pilots do not casually
take off when one engine will not start. Construction people building
apartments do not ignore it when a wall collapses.