Richard said: >Hmm.. thinking about imposing a vacuum and/or a separate sonic transponder >adjustable for resonance frequency studies give me a giddy feeling.
Richard don't quite follow the resonance part if you are referring to an EC. I think S. Meyer and his pulsed cell was way to high in frequency and the work was being done by a sub frequency component. The cell that I refer to in my work is operating at 71.43hz of all weird spots to find :-) The frequency is dependant upon distance between electrodes and the control (third electrode) is placed between the anode and cathode of the cell. My gut feeling is that the control electrode is acting on the ions present in the electrolyte between the anode and cathode. A conversion (in some) way takes place by interaction of this control electrode and the ions which allow electrons to flow in the control electrode without gas production. There appears to be what? (an increase of electrons) or some incomplete guess at my tunneling idea. Richard I have a 'stupid' formulation that has proved extremely accurate in the calculation of the added energy obtained from the cell. Yet if I publish it here I will never hear the end of it due to its apparent non-sense nature. But what the heck, maybe at the 'Dime Box' after a few pickled eggs and a few brew, something funny might help 'clear the air'. Eg = (Vs * Is) - (( Is * Na * ec ) / f) Eg - energy gain Vs - source or supply voltage Is - supply current (amps) Na -Avogadro's number ec - Electron charge f - pulse freq. 50% duty cycle This equation falls apart as (f) increases because it requires a closer spacing between the electrodes, which reduces the effect. Like I say I don't have the answers, idea's that could be totaly wrong. At least Jones has his faux-n explained much better than what I have. Tip one for me.... -----Original Message----- From: R.C.Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:37 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [VO]: Hydrogen outlook? Stiffler wrote.. >These resistive effects are seen as -R and only happen in properly pulsed systems and properly designed electrode configurations. Negative resistance can be experienced at a third electrode by what I currently believe is some type of electron tunneling that I do not at this point fully understand. This tunneling current does NOT produce gas of any type at the third electrode, yet it results in some very interesting observation in production. Howdy Dr. Now , this is beginning to get interesting. Jones recognized it while studying the 3 battery hookup shown on Utube. I still didn't get it until now. Hmm.. thinking about imposing a vacuum and/or a separate sonic transponder adjustable for resonance frequency studies give me a giddy feeling. Richard