> >> >> Nor does the manufacturer's brochure assert that steam quality can be >> measured with their equipment . . . > > It said the equipment measures enthalpy. You can't do that unless you know > the quality of the steam. It also said that the instrument measures by mass, > not volume. > - Jed >
It calculates the enthalpy of humid air based on the temperature and relative humidity. It does *not* measure the enthalpy of saturated steam having some unknown steam quality. You (Jed) sent to me a private message quoting someone who knows about capacitance probes. Did you email them my response? I bet I can convince them that the probe does not and can *not* measure steam quality using any method including any "off-label" method. Does anybody on Vortex agree with my previous email to Vortex about the capacitance probe? It can only sense the partial pressure of the water but saturated steam has a constant vapor pressure of 14.7 psi at all steam qualities between 0% and 100%. So the capitance will never change while the steam quality changes. People are going gaga over Rossi without him showing any good scientific data or reports. Then there is the issue of the expert Galantini saying that steam quality can be measured with a relative humidity probe - that is a medium sized red flag. Throw in all the other circumstantial evidence and people should be skeptical. I know a guy that has visited many overunity groups that make extraordinary claims about a new energy source and every time after some scrutiny, there is fraud involved or some sort of mistake or he can never get close enough to determine the legitimacy of it. In my opinion Rossi shows signs of the fraud category. Can someone on here post a video of steam exiting a tea kettle at about 2 grams per second while the steam exits through a hole of about 0.6 inches (1.5 cm) in diameter? This is about the inner diameter of Rossi's black hose. I'll do it on some other cooler day - right now it is too hot. The way to do it is stick something in the 1.25" opening of the tea kettle to bring it down to a 0.6" diameter. A pipe or maybe a pipe bushing like a 3/4" male pipe thread on one end with a 1/2" female pipe thread on the other. Use liberal amounts (dozens of wraps) of teflon tape to seal the pipe thread to the tea kettle. Teflon won't melt at these temperatures. Put the stove on maximum and get the water boiling. Using a digital scale, weigh the tea kettle every 5 minutes or whatever is practical. Put multiple cloth potholders or T-shirts on the scale so as to shield the weight scale from the heat. Determine the average weight loss and post a video of the steam leaving the kettle with a black background and plenty of light. And don't set your house on fire. I did see Veeder's posting of steam exiting a tube but it looks to be larger than 1" opening and we want more verification on the mass flow rate. Jeff
