E-L, I think Europe will precede the US but it will actually be smaller, poorer nations that first scramble to certify and demonstrate the worth of any residential system by Rossi, Defkallion or other entity. The poorest nations are least controlled by big business and have now a sudden opportunity to rapidly escape poverty - I can see these nations trying to rapidly industrialize and leverage their low energy cost into a significant Gross national product for export. Big oil has no way to plug all these little holes and is probably rethinking their future investment schemes to "join" rather than "beat" LENR and will probably find some way to purchase and meter this new resource. Fran
From: Energy Liberator [mailto:energylibera...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:29 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:20 kW home E-Cat LCOE OK, I thought he made mention of a COP 50 somewhere that I missed. I wonder how long after the US certification, it will be for Rossi to get certification for Europe and the rest of the World. On 04/01/12 13:41, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: COP 6 was for the original Fat Cat E-Cats as used in the 1 MW demo unit. I suggest the 10 and 20 kW home units, to be delivered in Sept 2012, will not be anything like the Fat Cats and they will run in self sustain mode or very close to it. I estimated the control electronics and the primary circuit circulating pump would consume 400 Watts. With 20 kW thermal output and 400 Watts electrical input, the COP is 50. AG On 1/4/2012 11:25 PM, Energy Liberator wrote: Where did you get a COP of 50 from? I thought it was 6. Rossi said in his interview that the running cost would be about 1/6th of a current conventional boiler running cost. On 04/01/12 07:52, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Based on the recently announced 20 kW thermal home E-Cat costing $1,500 and assuming it draws 0.4 kW (400 Watts) from the mains (COP 50), here is the LCOE and the individual item cost breakdowns. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kLBSLYjhfkssP57d3w1J6dMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink What I find interesting is annual cost of the fuel and servicing is 4 times the Levelized Annual Investment Cost of the E-Cat hardware. Will home E-Cats become like ink jet printers that are sold near cost price to get the replacement ink business? But with a LCOE cost of $0.00456 / thermal kWh who cares? This is just about as close to free energy as you can get. No excuse for anybody on this planet to be cold again. With the E-Cat's thermal energy being so low cost, cleaning up dirty water and desalination of sea / brackish water should be low cost as well. Well done Andrea Rossi, what a lovely New Years present to the whole planet.