I wrote:
> It brings the question of conservation of energy to the fore. If normal > LENR is like a box with a button on it, which once pressed causes heat to > spill out, can you have another box with a button that, when pressed, > causes cooling to occur? At face value, it sounds like some basic > principle is being violated. > I don't think it's CoE that is the problem in this case, it's the second law of thermodynamics -- entropy can only increase. If you took the LENR experiment with the tungsten in which cooling is being observed and placed the entire apparatus in a calorimeter, wouldn't you expect (require?) the balance of heat given off by the system to be positive? The question of nickel v. tungsten is more complex than I implied. If I remember correctly, there are experiments with tungsten in which heat was produced. Eric
