Axil, You speak of ice receding as though it is inevitable. My major worry is that the present heating will trigger an ice event. I guess we could use the old ice core data to determine the typical length of time between heating and the following ice age which would be a far worse catastrophe.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 4:01 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides As the ice recedes, there will be a redistribution of land area among the nations of the earth. The US and China will lose a goodly amount of coastal land area. The Kingdom of Denmark will be the biggest winner. Greenland is an autonomous country within the Kingdom of Denmark and will be ice free and ripe for new development. The countries abutting the Arctic Ocean will also be winners because their northern most territories will now be ice free and usable for development The ice free Antarctic continent is an international zone and will be off limits to all nations because of international treaties restricting all national development. Because of this, useable land surface area will be greatly reduced for the use of the world’s population. Cheers: Axil On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote: Excellent post Axil. You captured my sentiment precisely. It really moronic to try to continue to waste money on places that are borrowed time. Or to waste money on steps to stop it. Global Warming may be scary to some, but to me, I believe it will be good for mankind in the medium to long term, as it would open up more farm land. Jojo ----- Original Message ----- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:43 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides I regret the tremendous waste of money which will occur all over the world that sea level rise is going to cause. There is a thousand trillion dollar loss just in valuable east coast US real estate value and infrastructure. We should stop dumping good money after bad into these soon to be flooded areas. The coming flood overhangs all national and local decision making or at least it should. The US government should think about relocating Washington DC to higher ground rather than dumping more improvements into that doomed town. I think Harrisburg PA is the right elevation at 450 feet above sea level for the new capital. All the present land owners will have to be moved to somewhere else because their houses and farms will be granted over to the US government for the new location of the transplanted new capital through emanate domain. Eminent domain in the US is the compulsory purchase for federal or state government use. It is an action of the state to seize a citizen's private property, expropriate property, or seize a citizen's rights in property with due monetary compensation, but without the owner's consent. Eminent domain will need to take place well into the present mid-west to make room for the new coast line of the American nation. All US citizens will be affected except some grain farmers in Kansas. Stop wasting money to improve New York City infrastructure like the 10 billion dollar water system improvement, the 20 billion dollar subway extension, and the 100 billon dollar world trade center rebuild. That entire infrastructure will soon be under 300 feet of sea water. This is true for all the cities on the east and west coasts and the gulf coasts. We know the flood is coming; it is no surprise, so let’s start making plans to adapt to it. Cheers: Axil On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote: Indeed it is getting silly.... Silly how people jam their beliefs of AGW down your throat. There is NO AGW. But even if there was, as many people said here, I'd rather have it warmer than colder. Colder weather is more an environmental catastrophe than weather that is warmer a few degrees. Once again, this is not about environmentalism per se. This is an occultic pantheistic movement, nothing more than the worship of Mother Earth. Jojo ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides Le Jul 30, 2012 à 12:36 AM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> a écrit : Reality check people. Environmentalism and Global Warming hoopla is not about catastrophe or overpopulation or unsustainability. It's about a growing pantheistic religion movement. A movement that would have you worship rocks and trees and rivers and animals. Personally, I find this attempt to browbeat me into this pantheistic movement quite offensive. And that is exactly what Global Warming Extremist are trying to do. You've mischaracterized the legitimate concern of many that there will be negative repercussions of climate change as their browbeating you into submitting to pantheism. This is getting silly. Eric