At 01:16 AM 1/3/2013, David Roberson wrote:
Abd, is it possible for you to discuss these issues with him in private?
No. Why?
I find the titles of the threads offensive and to keep seeing them over and over is beginning to wear on me.
Indeed. They are. That's the point, in fact.
I have a hard time believing that you must personally defend Islam to this extent and did it occur to you that you are feeding fuel to the fire over and over again?
Sure, that occurred to me. However, my responses are only to a fraction of what Jojo is posting. I tested this before, explicitly giving Jojo the "last word," after he'd violated his promise to give it to me, and I honored that, until his battles with *others* made it clear that disruptive off-topic flame wars would continue.
I miss the good discussions that once were common on this site and it would not surprise me to see many leave if this continues at the present rate.
It's already happening. However, take a look at my "rate," and compare it with others. I am *not* causing the problem here. I write lengthy posts in response to others, researching issues that have been brought here by others. I don't bring irrelevant issues here, except as everyone does, as dicta, small comments that we routinely make in chit-chat. I ignore *most* of what is being sent.
Why not just let the insults pass and eventually they must end.
Advise your friend. Is he your friend?
At times such as this I look back fondly to the posts of Mary and Crude, at least they were related to the main subject and generally not directly offensive.
I did not support the banning of Mary Yugo, necessarily. I have created a nVo list, and they are welcome to subscribe to it. New subscribers are on moderation, but will be taken off on a showing of relevance, and will not be added to moderation unless they violate warnings, and they will only be "banned" if they flood moderators with irrelevant posts. The list archive will be accessible publically, and complaints about offensive posts may result in deletion of posts from the archive; however, these posts may be copied to a "flame pit" that may not be googleable.
How to resolve the problem here is pretty simple, we have decades of experience at it. The problem is the absence of the list moderator. That would come up as an issue sooner or later. Mailing lists with only one owner are *unstable*, long term. I've seen many go south when the owner disappeared, and we all disappear, eventually.
This is at least the second time I have begged for a little civility on this list.
Indeed. So what will you do about it? no more new content below.
-----Original Message----- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>; vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 11:25 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: The Truth about islam and little girls. Stewart and Rothwell don't realize the implications of leaving seriously offensive posts in the Vortex archive, without response. I am responding to only a few of Jojo's posts, he's been flooding the list. After promising to stop, he posted 20 times here yesterday, and 28 times today, carrying on quite as before. I responded seven times yesterday and seven today. (Direct responses to Jojo). My responses will naturally become rarer and shorter. Responding on VortexB-l is *useless.* The VortexB archive on Beatty's web site is *inaccessible.* I'm not engaged in a conversation with Jojo Jaro. That ended long ago. I'm in a conversation with *others*, most of whom are not now present. I would not bring this conversation here, it was brought here, insistently, and it's maintained here because, I assume, of the absence of Bill. If you really want to do something about that, contact him. I've tried and so have others apparently. So far, no response. I'm worried about him. At 08:52 PM 1/2/2013, ChemE Stewart wrote: >I agree 100% > >On Wednesday, January 2, 2013, Jed Rothwell wrote: >Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <<mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.com>a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: > >Please remove this discussion to VortexB-L. > > >I doubt that will happen. VortexB-l does not appear to be >googleable. So from Jojo's point of view, it could be useless. > > >I have already filtered out Jojo. So why don't YOU take this >discussion to VortexB-L. Respond to him there, if you must. Or I >will filter out you, too. > >Enough is enough. > >- Jed
