>In the end, it should be crystal clear to anyone who understands nuclear
engineering - that there is no possible way to adequately explain the lack
of gammas in LENR - other than that they never happened at all.
I agree with you Jones.  The only way to explain this process is to assume that 
the gammas are not emitted at any time and that the energy from the reactions 
is shared among the atoms surrounding it.  I have been looking for evidence 
that fusion can take place in the compact environment of a cold fusion NAE in a 
manner that is very different from that occurring within a plasma.  The system 
difference is evident and I have not seem papers describing known fusion events 
recorded within a metal matrix where gammas are emitted at the expected levels.


I proposed an experiment where a palladium cube loaded with deuterium is 
subjected to a flux of muons as a way to induce conditions that are known to 
result in fusion.  If this does not result in the release of a number of 
gammas, then evidence is obtained that fusion within a metal matrix is 
different than that occurring within a gas.  Of course, muon induced fusion 
might behave differently than normal LENR activity.  The more clues that we 
obtain about the behavior of LENR, the faster we can understand the mechanism.


Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2013 10:33 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:A pile of clues... should be obvious by now!


Mark,

Some of us only see a duck as a "downer" (cough, cough)

Anyway, and from one fringe-of-the-fringe LENR perspective, this has "strong
force interaction" written all over it, whether it is obvious to W-L
proponents or not.

RPF(reversible proton fusion) would certainly interact with its surrounds
via spin (magnons) and would shuttle from one state (Helium-2) to another
(two protons) with only quark interactions to show for the experience. The
net energy deposited (or removed) is small per event, but happens at the
rate of blackbody phonon vibration (mid terahertz).

Thus even micro(eV) energy change per event can get amplified rapidly, if
and when asymmetry is engineered into the reaction.

... hmmm... I'm now thinking of calling "quark color-change" as seen in RPF
as the "quark-quack" reaction ... nothing there but spin, so to speak...
thus giving detractors the satisfaction of calling the theory as
quack-derived ... yet all the while, the other LENR theories are falling
like ducks ... simply due to the obvious: not being able to adequately
explain lack of gammas. 

In the end, it should be crystal clear to anyone who understands nuclear
engineering - that there is no possible way to adequately explain the lack
of gammas in LENR - other than that they never happened at all.

Jones

                From: MarkI-ZeroPoint 
                
                The evidence is piling up that subatomic 'particles' are
dipole-like structures, and likely a type of dipole oscillation...
                Looks, sounds, feels and quacks just like one...
                ;-)
                HTSITYS,
                -Mark
                [darn pics made msg too large so had to delete the piccys]
                ---------------------------

                Researchers suggest one can affect an atom's spin by
adjusting the way it is measured
                http://phys.org/news/2013-03-affect-atom-adjusting.html

                [GO to website to see picture]
                

 

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