Let me be clear, Axil. I have not hit on anything. Kim first suggested a BEC can form at high temperatures in a lattice. I do not believe this is possible. I DO NOT accept this as an explanation of LENR.

The BEC is known from experience and theory to only form near absolute zero. If a lattice is able to form a BEC based on hydrogen at room temperature and above, this by itself would be a Nobel Prize discovery if true. I see no reason to apply an explanation that is so unique to explain CF. In addition, the behavior, as I note below, is not consistent with what is observed. This does not account for the few neutrons. The few neutrons are near background and can be more easily explained as a result of fractofusion.

Ed Storms



On May 27, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Axil Axil wrote:

Ed has hit upon the secret of LENR in a back handed way. BEC can form at extreme temperatures; this miracle is the backbone of LENR.


Electrons can be broken apart into thier constituent components: charge, angular momentum, and spin.


http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/04/electrons-like-gaul-come-in-three-parts/

http://www.physics.harvard.edu/Thesespdfs/tserkovnyak.pdf


In thin nanoantennas, charge is broken free of the electron and is free to combine with light to form a polariton.


Since light can readily form condensates, AKS lasers, charge is taken along for the ride. Extreme amounts of charge are accumulated and light/charge is compressed into a dark photon singularity.


Ed must eventually understand the new science of topological materials and the formation of quasiparticles.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: That is the idea. However, why would only a few hydrons fuse leaving just enough unreacted hydrons available to carry all the energy without it producing energetic radiation? I would expect occasionally, many hydrons would fuse leaving too few unreacted hydrons so that the dissipated energy would have to be very energetic and easily detected. Also, how is this mass-energy coupled to the unreacted hydrons? The BEC is not stable at high temperatures, which would be present inside the BEC when mass-energy was released. I would expect this release would destroy the BEC, leaving the fused hydrons to dissipate energy by the normal hot fusion method. The concept appears to have many logical flaws.

Ed Storms

On May 27, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:

Then is that an explanation of why Gamma rays are not observed in LENR? If 2 of the atoms inside a multi-atom BEC fuse together, the incoming radiation (to the rest of the BEC) gets subdivided based upon how many atoms have formed the BEC. Right?


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: This paper verifies that a photon eradiated Bose-Einstein condensate will cut the frequency of incoming photons by dividing that frequency between N numbers of atoms.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1261v1.pdf

Rydberg excitation of a Bose-Einstein condensate

“The results of theoretical simulations are represented by the continuous lines.

According to the super-atom picture the collective Rabi frequency for the coherent excitation of N atoms is

frequency (collective) = square root(number of atoms) X frequency(single);

Where the single-particle Rabi frequency (single) is app 2 pi x 200 kHz for our experimental parameters.”




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