On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe < stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be nice to get some statistics out of that, any links? > Although this is a reasonable request, there are two difficulties in addressing it. The first is that the experiments span a range of qualities, from very good to very poor, and they are somewhat hard to compare with one another due to the large parameter space. A second difficulty is that there are many relevant papers. As a start, you should take a look at Ed Storms's book (full disclosure -- he is an occasional participant on this list). I recommend it very highly. It has a number of tables that distill many years of experiments, and the different sections cover different types of experiment -- old school P&F electrolysis experiments, gas loading experiments, ion beam experiments, etc. What you are looking for is perhaps summarized in one or two sections of this book. I am not persuaded of all of his conclusions, but his conclusions are all well-researched. For a more in-depth investigation, the early papers (say 1989-1991) are very interesting. I am reading through them now. These include mainstream journal articles and early conference proceedings, some of the latter of which can be obtained from Amazon. In addition, LENR-CANR.org has many early papers as well as a search interface that will allow you to search for specific terms (e.g., "electrolysis"). (This is Jed Rothwell's site.) You can also find interesting papers on the New Energy Times site. The early papers are not the only ones that are relevant for what you're looking at, of course. But I get the vague sense that the field is starting to move on from deuterium electrolysis, although occasionally one will see new papers. In general, early papers were published in mainstream journals and conference proceedings, up until about 1992. After that, there is the sporadic paper in Naturwissenschaften and Fusion Technology, and everything else is largely in conference proceedings or in JCMNS or is self-published. One of the challenges with deuterium electrolysis is that it is very finicky. For some reason many trials end up being duds, and only occasionally is a reaction seen, which, in some cases, is dramatic, and which, in many cases, is barely above the threshold of measurement error. These same challenges will no doubt recur in a double-blind experiment along the lines of what you're thinking about. I get the impression that the NiH gas loading system is easier to get going reliably once you know the secret recipe, but I could be inferring too much from the available information to justify this conclusion. Technically speaking, the researchers may not be 100 percent convinced that NiH is legit, but I get the sense that people's impressions are starting to change. To summarize, check out Ed Storms's book or LENR-CANR.org as a starting point. Eric