Thanks for your advice Daniel - I do now remember hearing of this before, but a long time ago!
Thank you too again Ronni - please make sure you take the time to eat & even rest. Your help is appreciated, but it is free & I am sure we can all wait for your response at your convenience. Those wanting instant gratification may want to think about paying for the privilege. Cheers, Alex On 07/10/2012, at 7:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: > Hi Alex, > > I'm pleased all went well and you and your daughter are happy again :) > > I agree with everything Daniel has mentioned below (I don't think I > have ever disagreed with Daniel's advise). > I purchased both iPodRip (now iRip) years ago & also Senuti. Both > are good at what they do. > > What I like about iRip, as well as its clear interface, is that it > can also transfer iBooks (which of course will not concern your > daughter with her iPod transfer), but this is handy for transferring > from an iPad. > > Senuti has a more simple interface but does work well, but I don't > think it has the ability to transfer iBooks. > I haven't used either app for a long time, but that is what I > remember. > > Cheers, > Ronni > Sent from Ronni's iPad > > On 07/10/2012, at 12:26 AM, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> > wrote: > >> Hi Alex >> >> You can't do it from within iTunes, as it would be bypass Apple's >> DRM (as Ronni mentioned). >> Basically to get iTunes off the ground years ago, Apple had to work >> around things to get the music companies on board (loooong story >> which I won't go into). >> To do that, they had to "lock" what the iPod could do, and the way >> music could go. i.e. it can only go from iTunes to iPod and not the >> other way. This was to stop people taking their music they bough >> and ripping it back to someone else's music collection and vice >> versa. (hey, you buy $100 worth of music, I buy $100 worth of >> music. We rip it to each other collection and have $200 of music). >> I'm not saying everyone would do this, i'm just using this as an >> example to help explain it :o) >> (And not implying you would either, just trying to show why it's >> done that way). >> >> The way around it to get back music that is yours, is to use either >> of a program called iRip (used to be called iPodRip but they got >> asked to change their name) or Senuti (which is iTunes spelt >> backwards,..get it,..backwards,..like taking your music backwards >> from your iPod to iTunes. Clever eh!) :o) >> >> iRip can be downloaded from here >> <http://thelittleappfactory.com/irip/> >> >> Senuti can be downloaded from here >> <http://www.fadingred.com/senuti/> >> >> Neither program is free but they do let you try it to see if it's >> going to do what you want. >> >> I've used iRip a few times for clients who've lost music on their >> main machine but it's still on their iPod and they need to get it >> back. I've found it works really well and bought it years ago. >> Actually I really like a lot of the apps from The Little App >> Factory, they make some great stuff. >> >> Hope that info helps! >> >> Kind regards >> Daniel >> --- >> Daniel Kerr >> MacWizardry >> >> Phone: 0414 795 960 >> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >> >> >> **For everything Apple** >> >> On 07/10/2012, at 12:18 AM, Alex <aln...@highway1.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Hi Ronni >>> >>> thanks a million for your instructions below - only managed to try >>> it >>> out late Sat night & all worked out well. My daughter is pleased & >>> sends her thanks as well. >>> >>> However, we do have a further question which has arisen from this >>> issue and that is: is it possible to copy songs FROM the iPod to >>> iTunes on the iMac? Have tried but doesn't seem to work. >>> >>> No rush, cheers, Alex >>> >>> On 05/10/2012, at 2:33 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alex, >>>> >>>> Apple's DRM is "Digital Rights Management" (but Apple for the past >>>> few years has DRM-free music.) >>>> >>>> Before you do anything "Backup"your computer... Make sure your >>>> iTunes Folder is backed up, just to be safe. >>>> >>>> When your daughter connects her iPod to the new iMac, is iTunes >>>> automatically opening and she receives a message similar to below? >>>> --- >>>> "The iPod 'iPod Nano' is synced with another iTunes Library. An >>>> iPod >>>> can be synced with only one iTunes Library at a time. >>>> What would you like to do? .... with three buttons at the bottom >>>> 'Cancel' 'Erase and Sync' 'Transfer Purchases' >>>> --- >>>> If so try this; after backing up your current iTunes Library as >>>> mentioned above ;-) >>>> >>>> On the new iMac: >>>> A) >>>> BEFORE you plug the iPod into the computer: >>>> 1. Open iTunes >>>> >>>> 2. Go to the iTunes menu -> Preferences -> Devices. >>>> >>>> 3. look for the icon or tab that says Devices. Choose it. >>>> >>>> 4. Just below the box, you’ll see a checkbox reading "Prevent >>>> iPods, >>>> iPhones, and iPads from syncing automatically." >>>> >>>> 5. Check it and click OK at the bottom of the window. >>>> >>>> Auto-Sync is now turned off and you’re safe to plug the iPod into >>>> the computer. >>>> >>>> B) Put the iPod into Manual Mode: >>>> >>>> 6. Connect the iPod >>>> >>>> If you want to keep the music library on your iPod, but copy songs >>>> or playlists from the music library on the second computer, >>>> click 'CANCEL' when the dialogue box appears, and then set your >>>> iPod >>>> to manual mode. >>>> >>>> Change the device synchronization mode to manual mode in iTunes: >>>> >>>> 1. Open iTunes, if necessary. >>>> 2. Select your device under 'Devices' in the menu on the left-hand >>>> side of iTunes. >>>> 3. Click the Summary tab. >>>> 4. Click "Manually manage music and videos" to enable that option. >>>> 5. Click OK in the resulting dialogue box. >>>> 6. Click Apply. >>>> >>>> It is normal for your device to take a few seconds to change from >>>> Automatic Mode to Manual Mode. >>>> >>>> When in Manual Mode, to add songs or playlists, drag them from >>>> iTunes to the iPod icon in the sidebar. >>>> >>>> To remove songs or playlists, select them on the iPod in iTunes and >>>> press the delete key. >>>> You can also create playlists directly on the iPod. >>>> >>>> Let me know how you get on please. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt" >>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD >>>> >>>> OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion >>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) >>>> >>>> >>>> On 05/10/2012, at 12:41 PM, aln...@highway1.com.au wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>> >>>>> No rush - please look into it only when you have time comfortably. >>>>> >>>>> Answers to questions below. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, Alex >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>>> To: >>>>> Cc: >>>>> Sent:Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:36:52 +0800 >>>>> Subject:Re: Apple Id - now iTunes query >>>>> >>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>> >>>>> I'm rushing out to see a client now, but I will reply to your >>>>> query >>>>> ASAP after I return home. >>>>> Hopefully later this morning. >>>>> >>>>> A few questions for you to answer please: >>>>> >>>>> What OS X is the new iMac running OS X 10.? 10.6.8 >>>>> What version of iTunes 10.?, 9.? 10.6.1 (7) >>>>> Is the NEW iTunes Library Empty? NO >>>>> If not what does it have in it? Just music or Books etc & iTunes >>>>> Store purchases? Music, 1 movie - incs iTunes Store purchases, >>>>> some music purchased from JB etc >>>>> >>>>> Does the iPod only have Music on it? YES + 1 (?) video >>>>> (video not important) >>>>> Or does it have photos as well? NO >>>>> Is there any iTunes Purchased music (Apple's DRM) songs which >>>>> need to >>>>> be authorised for every Mac they're played on? Prob only this >>>>> Mac. Not sure what "Apple's DRM" means? >>>>> >>>>> I'll get back to you after your reply to my questions and as >>>>> soon as >>>>> I possibly am able to. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> On 05/10/2012, at 12:41 AM, Alex wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/10/2012, at 12:25 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> • A device can only sync with one iTunes library at a time. >>>>>>> • Syncing a device with a new iTunes library disassociates it >>>>> from >>>>>>> the previous library (and deletes the media synced from the >>>>> previous >>>>>>> library from the device). >>>>>> >>>>>> We had an older iMac which my daughter shared to store her >>>>>> music in >>>>> >>>>>> iTunes and subsequently transferred to her iPod (Nano, I think). >>>>>> Since we upgraded to a more recent iMac she has complained that >>>>> when >>>>>> she connects to it iTunes states that it will delete what is >>>>> already >>>>>> on the iPod, even though attempting to manually transfer music. >>>>> From >>>>>> what you said above, I guess she is right, although I thought you >>>>>> should be able to manually transfer individual bits & pieces, >>>>> rather >>>>>> than syncing? Not using iCloud >>>>>> >>>>>> So how does she keep the old stuff on the iPod & also get to >>>>> connect >>>>>> to the new iTunes/iMac & add the new music? Will it be similar to >>>>>> Chris Burton's solution? >>>>>> >>>>>> I unfortunately deleted the iTunes Music folder on the old iMac >>>>> after >>>>>> I thought everything had been transferred (but somehow wasn't). >>>>>> Was >>>>> >>>>>> about to buy Data Rescue 3 this evening, but will hold off >>>>>> until I >>>>> get >>>>>> your advice. >>>>>> >>>>>> Really appreciate your work & expertise, >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, Alex >>>> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>>>> >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>> > >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>