On Mar 28, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Q wrote: > On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: >> I really don't think things are stagnant because of the lack of money. >> They're stagnant because the remaining people in the community don't care >> enough to contribute. I don't buy any of the "I don't know how to do X" or >> "I don't have time to do X." You have to want it. > > I agree with mike's statement, and can relate. I have worked on many > different parts of WOLips, Wonder and numerous other projects, and more often > than not I had no idea where to start, all I knew was what I wanted to > achieve. You just have to know what you want to do, and don't give up until > you succeed or know that it can't be done. Some of the code I have > contributed took me over a year to get right (arguably some of it still > isn't), and there are other things I have been working on sporadically > (because it's not something I need yet) for close to 4 years now that could > be great, or may never be finished, I still don't know which.
Yes, this is very important. Adding: lack of bug fixes and new features (if that's a problem) will not be solved by more organization. Like any other tool WO is better suited to some problems than others. I will use it until I find something better for that class of problems. I am dispassionate about this. For several months I just haven't needed anything that wasn't already present and working in WO, and experiments are on no timetable but my own, or others willing to pitch in. (Yay git.) I would not expect the WO community to grow much. And that's OK. All technology has a finite lifespan. Even if WO's first-run experience was better (of course it could be better, and making it better is a noble goal) I wouldn't expect a lot of growth primarily because WO's core is frozen in time. This is mitigated somewhat by the fact that WO's core is flexible and well designed, and Wonder has been able to assert itself into nooks and crannies that wouldn't be possible with traditional Java frameworks. But there are things that can't be done in Wonder. The fact that the core is closed and will never be updated certainly influences the lifespan. [Yeah, yeah I'm wrapping up.] The community is lovely and populated with talented engineers (and hackers.) The quality of the conferences -- attendees and content -- is proof of this. And, for many purposes, WO continues outshines other solutions. I have no plans to stop using it. I reserve the right to dump it like a sack of moldy tangerines as soon as something better or more interesting emerges from the primordial ooze. :) tb _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
