Am 11.07.2012 um 23:03 schrieb Daniel Beatty: > Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen, > I tend to agree with Chuck on the notion that this could be a costly marriage > without some kind of stability assurance. My recommendation would be to have > Cayenne be standardized so that at least there is both proper documentation > and be able to say what Cayenne is intended to be (EOF like or otherwise). > > I did some work on the subject whether WO/EOF is still king of the ORMs for > my dissertation qualifiers in November of 2011. I found that while there is > no notion of a standardized ORM out there, EOF has a de facto standard due to > its age and open source varieties in both Objective-C and Java forms. I > can see why Apple has been reluctant to take it to a standards body. Namely, > why teach the whole industry how to build something that makes your company > so successful. None the less, there are enough of us that could easily > reverse engineer EOF along with Cayenne to help formalize such a standard > with say the Open Grid Forum (OGF). > > Of course, there is probably nothing that can be done about the language of > choice. According to the TIOBE index, the three most popular languages as > far as applications built by them are in order C, Java, and Objective-C. > Popularity does not necessarily give us good languages from an academic point > of view, but there are some blessings to be had from those top three. Of > course, Objective-C did rise this last month to surpass C++, C#, PHP, and > Visual Basic. What does Chuck say if people are using those languages, of > their own free will?
Speaking of Objective-C: There's an EOF and a WebObjects clone in GNUstep under the LGPL: EOF-Clone (EOF 4.5 IIRC): http://www.gnustep.org/experience/GDL2.html http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gdl2/trunk/ WebObjects-Clone: http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstepWeb http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gsweb/trunk/ Wouldn't that be an alternative nowadays that ObjC has ARC? http://clang.llvm.org/docs/AutomaticReferenceCounting.html > > V/R, cheers, Lars
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