Apparently

http://cayenne.apache.org/success-stories.html


On 2012-07-11, at 5:21 PM, Michael Kondratov wrote:

> Anyone used it? Does it actually work?
> 
> Michael
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 11, 2012, at 19:10, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Am 11.07.2012 um 23:03 schrieb Daniel Beatty:
>> 
>>> Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>> I tend to agree with Chuck on the notion that this could be a costly 
>>> marriage without some kind of stability assurance.  My recommendation would 
>>> be to have Cayenne be standardized so that at least there is both proper 
>>> documentation and be able to say what Cayenne is intended to be (EOF like 
>>> or otherwise).  
>>> 
>>> I did some work on the subject whether WO/EOF is still king of the ORMs for 
>>> my dissertation qualifiers in November of 2011.  I found that while there 
>>> is no notion of a standardized ORM out there, EOF has a de facto standard 
>>> due to its age and open source varieties in both Objective-C and Java 
>>> forms.    I can see why Apple has been reluctant to take it to a standards 
>>> body.  Namely, why teach the whole industry how to build something that 
>>> makes your company so successful.  None the less, there are enough of us 
>>> that could easily reverse engineer EOF along with Cayenne to help formalize 
>>> such a standard with say the Open Grid Forum (OGF).  
>>> 
>>> Of course, there is probably nothing that can be done about the language of 
>>> choice.  According to the TIOBE index, the three most popular languages as 
>>> far as applications built by them are in order C, Java, and Objective-C.    
>>> Popularity does not necessarily give us good languages from an academic 
>>> point of view, but there are some blessings to be had from those top three. 
>>>    Of course, Objective-C did rise this last month to surpass C++, C#, PHP, 
>>> and Visual Basic.   What does Chuck say if people are using those 
>>> languages, of their own free will? 
>> 
>> Speaking of Objective-C: There's an EOF and a WebObjects clone in GNUstep 
>> under the LGPL:
>> 
>> 
>> EOF-Clone (EOF 4.5 IIRC):
>> 
>> http://www.gnustep.org/experience/GDL2.html
>> 
>> http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gdl2/trunk/
>> 
>> 
>> WebObjects-Clone:
>> 
>> http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstepWeb
>> 
>> http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gsweb/trunk/
>> 
>> 
>> Wouldn't that be an alternative nowadays that ObjC has ARC?
>> 
>> http://clang.llvm.org/docs/AutomaticReferenceCounting.html
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> V/R,
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>>      Lars
>> 
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