On 2012-07-11, at 6:02 PM, prob...@macti.ca wrote: > I think Hugi also use it.
Is that a point for or against it? :-P > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > Le 2012-07-11 à 20:24, "Chuck Hill" <ch...@global-village.net> a écrit : > >> Apparently >> >> http://cayenne.apache.org/success-stories.html >> >> >> On 2012-07-11, at 5:21 PM, Michael Kondratov wrote: >> >>> Anyone used it? Does it actually work? >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 11, 2012, at 19:10, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf >>> <lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Am 11.07.2012 um 23:03 schrieb Daniel Beatty: >>>> >>>>> Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen, >>>>> I tend to agree with Chuck on the notion that this could be a costly >>>>> marriage without some kind of stability assurance. My recommendation >>>>> would be to have Cayenne be standardized so that at least there is both >>>>> proper documentation and be able to say what Cayenne is intended to be >>>>> (EOF like or otherwise). >>>>> >>>>> I did some work on the subject whether WO/EOF is still king of the ORMs >>>>> for my dissertation qualifiers in November of 2011. I found that while >>>>> there is no notion of a standardized ORM out there, EOF has a de facto >>>>> standard due to its age and open source varieties in both Objective-C and >>>>> Java forms. I can see why Apple has been reluctant to take it to a >>>>> standards body. Namely, why teach the whole industry how to build >>>>> something that makes your company so successful. None the less, there >>>>> are enough of us that could easily reverse engineer EOF along with >>>>> Cayenne to help formalize such a standard with say the Open Grid Forum >>>>> (OGF). >>>>> >>>>> Of course, there is probably nothing that can be done about the language >>>>> of choice. According to the TIOBE index, the three most popular >>>>> languages as far as applications built by them are in order C, Java, and >>>>> Objective-C. Popularity does not necessarily give us good languages >>>>> from an academic point of view, but there are some blessings to be had >>>>> from those top three. Of course, Objective-C did rise this last month >>>>> to surpass C++, C#, PHP, and Visual Basic. What does Chuck say if >>>>> people are using those languages, of their own free will? >>>> > >>>> Speaking of Objective-C: There's an EOF and a WebObjects clone in GNUstep >>>> under the LGPL: >>>> >>>> >>>> EOF-Clone (EOF 4.5 IIRC): >>>> >>>> http://www.gnustep.org/experience/GDL2.html >>>> >>>> http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gdl2/trunk/ >>>> >>>> >>>> WebObjects-Clone: >>>> >>>> http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstepWeb >>>> >>>> http://svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/libs/gsweb/trunk/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Wouldn't that be an alternative nowadays that ObjC has ARC? >>>> >>>> http://clang.llvm.org/docs/AutomaticReferenceCounting.html >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> V/R, >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Lars >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/michael%40aspireauctions.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to mich...@aspireauctions.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net >>> >>> This email sent to ch...@global-village.net >> >> -- >> Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development >> >> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall >> knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. >> http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca >> >> This email sent to prob...@macti.ca -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
