On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 23:56 -0400, Todd Grimason wrote: > * Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-22 23:26]: > I'd agree and say just a decent [up to date with CVS or 0.8] tutorial > would be the best balance and use of time. Perhaps implementing > whatever the common example is for Java servlets these days - the > Petstore? I think the petstore is actually the whole J2EE fruit salad. > > Anyways, I think the most alluring and useful tutorial would be > targeted at servlet/jsp developers, as the servlet paradigm is > similar, as is the ability to run an appserver on its own, which often > the masses using PHP don't have. And with Jython, BSF, and noise > around Groovy the javafolks are likely to come across Python.
For me it was incredibly painful trying to figure out the "proper" way to deliver a Webware based site. A few nice examples of reasonably complete sites would go a long way. I remember trying to use the vorbis site as an example and quickly abandoning it. It almost seems because Webware caters to a crowd that appreciates a simple and reasonably low-level platform, everyone that uses it is content/capable of building everything they need from scratch. The only reason I stuck with it was I was trying to make a "write it in anything want" job more interesting. A glance at the Wiki gives you: * A high level description of a transaction. * General pointers on MVC style design. * Setting up Apache. * Tips on common setup errors. * Ideas for applications. Not terribly useful to uninitiated. At best there is tentative suggestions instead of best practices. Since the extent of my web-devel work was PHP and I was also new to Python, I would have killed for: * A complete example of a non template (pure servlets) site. * A complete example of a Cheetah and/or PSP and/or ZTPL site. * When/Where/How to use Actions. * Best practices for managing DB connections. * Easier to grok SecurePage (maybe that's just me). * Best practices for integrating FunFormKit or FormKit. Perhaps people have apprehensions about advocating their method as *the method*, but I think a forum where multiple examples are available could alleviate that. -- Thomas E Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Robotic Monkeys at ThinkGeek For a limited time only, get FREE Ground shipping on all orders of $35 or more. Hurry up and shop folks, this offer expires April 30th! http://www.thinkgeek.com/freeshipping/?cpg=12297 _______________________________________________ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss
