You don't say if you are using 5Mhz or 10MHz channels. I assume 10 with 40 customers.
With the smaller bandwidth and slower speeds I think fractional channels limit the number of subscribers you can put on an AP. Does anybody have any empirical data on the number of users that can use a 5MHz and 10MHz Ap? I am not doing it, but think 40 is too many for a 5MHz channel, and has to be approaching the limit for a 10MHz channel. Thoughts? At 06:13 PM 10/1/2009, you wrote: >I dunno? Not a ton. Maybe 40 at the most. This segment of our network is >very small. We mainly focus on big businesses. > >On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com> wrote: > > > "-- oh, wait, this is not the Canopy list....." LOL! :) > > > > How many users per AP? > > > > ryan > > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com> > > wrote: > > > I'll tell you what we do, but won't get into defending it for the next > > month > > > -- oh, wait, this is not the Canopy list....... > > > > > > Our 2.4GHz spectrum is completely filled with vertical Canopy. > > > > > > We run UBNT AP's. Fixed at 2mi ACK. No RTS. Fixed G-only. Horizontal > > > polarity. Max data rate of 54Mbps. Sectors. > > > > > > Customers are all within 2 miles, use Loco2's. Customers are Auto ACK. > > No > > > RTS. Fixed G-Only. Horizontal. Max 54Mbps. > > > > > > On almost every single install we get at least 12Mbps down, 6Mbps up (our > > > rate limit). Without limit, we usually see up to 18. > > > > > > Funny... those lusers on the other guys Canopy pay like $40/mo for > > 1.5Mbps. > > > We give 12Mbps for $24.95/mo. > > > > > > Don't use B. It's DSSS. G is OFDM. Performs much better. > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Jason Hensley <ja...@jaggartech.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> In 2.4 land, if you have a lot of noise, which protocol is better - B or > > G? > > >> Is it better to run an AP as locked into one mode or is it OK to do a > > mix? > > >> > > >> Max I want off of 2.4 customers is 3meg so not that worried about the > > extra > > >> speed that G will provide, but, I would like to know which is more > > stable? > > >> I've always thought that B was more stable overall but just provided > > less > > >> bandwidth. I've gotten some info that may counter that. What's the > > >> real-world experience with folks in a high-noise environment, combined > > with > > >> a higher useage AP? > > >> > > >> I've got an AP that we've run in B mode only for a while. We've started > > >> having problems with it - speeds go from 3meg at the customer to 200k > > and > > >> fluctuate constantly. We've worked with RTS, ACK timeouts, etc etc and > > >> nothing seems to have improved the stability. For testing purposes we > > put > > >> up another AP right next to the one we're having trouble with. Switched > > >> two > > >> of our gaming clients to that one (setup as G mode only) and they seem > > to > > >> be > > >> doing better, but not quite as good as we feel they could be. This is > > on > > >> Deliberant AP's (Duos). The backhaul part of it is not the issue - we > > can > > >> pull close to 15meg back to our office when cabled into the AP. We have > > >> other Deliberant APs that are running MANY more clients than this one so > > we > > >> know it's not limitations of the equipment. AP is on top of a water > > tower. > > >> Have taken all clients off and brought them back on one by one and it > > did > > >> not reveal anything significant. With just one customer on the AP > > started > > >> acting up again. Swapped radios in the AP thinking we could have one > > going > > >> bad and still no luck. > > >> > > >> 2.4 antennas are H-pol. We have a ton of noise in the area, but we've > > been > > >> through basically every channel and it did not help either. Other AP's > > in > > >> the vicinity are performing fine. Thought of the multipath issue so we > > >> raised our test AP up a little higher than the other one. As I said, > > the > > >> test AP seems to be better, but next to it on top of the tower we can > > get > > >> around 8 or 9 meg down (locked into G mode), but at the CPE's we're > > still > > >> barely getting 2.5-2.8meg. > > >> > > >> Any thoughts? We changed everything we can. The new "test" AP has a > > 9db > > >> antenna compared to the 13db on the "production" AP. Other than that, > > they > > >> are identical as far as equipment goes. > > >> > > >> So, back to the subject question though, what's real-world experience > > with > > >> G-only mode in the field? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >> > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > >> > > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > >> > > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > WISPA Wants You! 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