I dunno?  Not a ton.  Maybe 40 at the most.  This segment of our network is
very small.  We mainly focus on big businesses.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com> wrote:

> "-- oh, wait, this is not the Canopy list....." LOL! :)
>
> How many users per AP?
>
> ryan
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com>
> wrote:
> > I'll tell you what we do, but won't get into defending it for the next
> month
> > -- oh, wait, this is not the Canopy list.......
> >
> > Our 2.4GHz spectrum is completely filled with vertical Canopy.
> >
> > We run UBNT AP's.  Fixed at 2mi ACK.  No RTS.  Fixed G-only.  Horizontal
> > polarity.  Max data rate of 54Mbps.  Sectors.
> >
> > Customers are all within 2 miles, use Loco2's.  Customers are Auto ACK.
>  No
> > RTS.  Fixed G-Only.  Horizontal.  Max 54Mbps.
> >
> > On almost every single install we get at least 12Mbps down, 6Mbps up (our
> > rate limit).  Without limit, we usually see up to 18.
> >
> > Funny... those lusers on the other guys Canopy pay like $40/mo for
> 1.5Mbps.
> > We give 12Mbps for $24.95/mo.
> >
> > Don't use B.  It's DSSS.  G is OFDM.  Performs much better.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Jason Hensley <ja...@jaggartech.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> In 2.4 land, if you have a lot of noise, which protocol is better - B or
> G?
> >> Is it better to run an AP as locked into one mode or is it OK to do a
> mix?
> >>
> >> Max I want off of 2.4 customers is 3meg so not that worried about the
> extra
> >> speed that G will provide, but, I would like to know which is more
> stable?
> >> I've always thought that B was more stable overall but just provided
> less
> >> bandwidth.  I've gotten some info that may counter that.  What's the
> >> real-world experience with folks in a high-noise environment, combined
> with
> >> a higher useage AP?
> >>
> >> I've got an AP that we've run in B mode only for a while.  We've started
> >> having problems with it - speeds go from 3meg at the customer to 200k
> and
> >> fluctuate constantly.  We've worked with RTS, ACK timeouts, etc etc and
> >> nothing seems to have improved the stability.  For testing purposes we
> put
> >> up another AP right next to the one we're having trouble with.  Switched
> >> two
> >> of our gaming clients to that one (setup as G mode only) and they seem
> to
> >> be
> >> doing better, but not quite as good as we feel they could be.  This is
> on
> >> Deliberant AP's (Duos).  The backhaul part of it is not the issue - we
> can
> >> pull close to 15meg back to our office when cabled into the AP.  We have
> >> other Deliberant APs that are running MANY more clients than this one so
> we
> >> know it's not limitations of the equipment.  AP is on top of a water
> tower.
> >> Have taken all clients off and brought them back on one by one and it
> did
> >> not reveal anything significant.  With just one customer on the AP
> started
> >> acting up again.  Swapped radios in the AP thinking we could have one
> going
> >> bad and still no luck.
> >>
> >> 2.4 antennas are H-pol.  We have a ton of noise in the area, but we've
> been
> >> through basically every channel and it did not help either.  Other AP's
> in
> >> the vicinity are performing fine.  Thought of the multipath issue so we
> >> raised our test AP up a little higher than the other one.  As I said,
> the
> >> test AP seems to be better, but next to it on top of the tower we can
> get
> >> around 8 or 9 meg down (locked into G mode), but at the CPE's we're
> still
> >> barely getting 2.5-2.8meg.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?  We changed everything we can.  The new "test" AP has a
> 9db
> >> antenna compared to the 13db on the "production" AP.  Other than that,
> they
> >> are identical as far as equipment goes.
> >>
> >> So, back to the subject question though, what's real-world experience
> with
> >> G-only mode in the field?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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