Spectrum trashers....   At least if there's no traffic on them there
shouldn't be much noise..

On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
> He's talking about these... (see attached)
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo
> <sc...@brevardwireless.com <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about
>     the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through
>     the city on every corner....  clear LOS to every tower around.
> 
>     Scott Carullo
>     Technical Operations
>     855-FLSPEED x102
> 
> 
> 
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From*: "Brian Webster" <bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
>     <mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>>
>     *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM
>     *To*: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
>     <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>     *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
> 
>     One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that
>     free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz
>     indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference
>     source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The
>     laws of physics work in your favor.
> 
>      
> 
>     Thank You,
> 
>     Brian Webster
> 
>     www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
> 
>     www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
> 
>      
> 
>     *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>     <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>     [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>     <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Scott Carullo
>     *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM
>     *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com
>     <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>; WISPA General List
>     *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
> 
>      
> 
>     Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up -
>     we all know things work better when its quiet.  This used to worry
>     me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already
>     there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios
>     (I don't usually install the stuff).  I'm not worried any more, if
>     its not one thing it will be another any way.  Thats what gives us
>     the edge every day, flexibility.  We will work around it, we always do.
> 
>     I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE
>     will continue to work fine.  Their omni low gain antenna can't
>     compete with a 20-30db directional one.  Still sucks though, you
>     drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just
>     knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them....
> 
>     Scott Carullo
>     Technical Operations
>     855-FLSPEED x102
> 
>      
> 
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>     *From*: "Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com
>     <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>>
>     *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
>     *To*: "sc...@brevardwireless.com <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>"
>     <sc...@brevardwireless.com <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>,
>     "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>     *Cc*: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
>     <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>     *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
> 
>     Are you seeing any impact from them?
> 
> 
>     On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, "Scott Carullo"
>     <sc...@brevardwireless.com <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street
>         corner.  Already seeing that in our areas....  do a wireless
>         scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones
>         (they run dual band APs now).
> 
>         Scott Carullo
>         Technical Operations
>         855-FLSPEED x102
> 
>          
> 
>         
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>         *From*: "Bret Clark" <bcl...@spectraaccess.com
>         <mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com>>
>         *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM
>         *To*: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>         *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
> 
>         What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of
>         spectrum...[/sarcasm off]
> 
>         On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote:
> 
>             I hope the links at the bottom come through.
> 
>             ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>              
> 
>             Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to
>             power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to
>             deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of
>             Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy
>             and Commerce hearing on Wednesday.
> 
>              
> 
>             Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has
>             expanded the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity
>             high-speed Internet customers to 350,000. The nation's
>             largest cable MSO also began deploying wireless gateways
>             from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast has said may be
>             able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots.
> 
>              
> 
>             While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel
>             said it needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand
>             from subscribers for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition
>             from Toyota and other automobile manufacturers who want to
>             use the 5 GHz band to deliver next-generation connected car
>             applications, including applications that would warn drivers
>             of collision threats.
> 
>              
> 
>             Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns
>             about possible interference from Wi-Fi services at
>             Wednesday's hearing.  "We have been actively engaged with
>             the Wi-Fi community and other stakeholders who are exploring
>             possible sharing solutions that will alleviate any risk of
>             harmful interference from unlicensed devices. But we're not
>             there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see if
>             we can get there," Kenney said in his prepared testimony.
> 
>              
> 
>             For more:
>             - see Nagel's prepared testimony
>             
> <http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=207&ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2&r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1&b=0&j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&mt=2&rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&rt=0>
>  (.pdf)
>             - see Kenney's prepared testimony
>             
> <http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=187&ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2&r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1&b=0&j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&mt=2&rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&rt=0>
>  (.pdf)
>             - see Comcast blog post
>             
> <http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=118&ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2&r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1&b=0&j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&mt=2&rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&rt=0>
>             - /Broadcasting & Cable/ has this story
>             
> <http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=190&ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2&r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1&b=0&j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&mt=2&rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0&rt=0>
> 
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