On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 at 14:15:36 -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote: > Em Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:45:47 +0000 > "Carlos R. Mafra" <crma...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > The GNU project thought it would be beneficial for both communities to > join efforts (GNU and Window Maker), as our primary wishes and > endeavor are always directed to the prospect of collaboration. > Of course, all those benefits wouldn't come without any effort or > commitment of your or our own part. We judge it's worth; unfortunately > you don't hold the same view.
[...] > Except from the part of moving the code repository and mailing lists, > all other topics you cited are, naturally, mandatory: this is the GNU > project, after all. Collaboration, not assimilation. How is that a 'collaboration' when having mandatory terms? I don't even agree with all this GNU fanatism. I thought that being the 'official window manager of the GNU operating system' would require changing a few lines of advertisement on the webpage and the 'Info Panel' to acknowledge that. You don't just want to use it, you want us to comply with some _mandatory_ terms that not all of us agree with. > > Moving to the GNU system right now could help Window Maker gain some > > visibility but from my point of view you could also simply use > > Window Maker without requiring all this. > > That's not how it works. In order to advance the cause of free > software, with the final goal of winning the battle against > proprietary software, the GNU project aims to make GNU a complete and > coherent operating system whilst promoting its philosophy and actively > defending users' freedom. Therefore, we have to make sure that all > pieces of the GNU system fit well philosophically, politically and > technically together. The fanatical explanation above is exactly why I don't want to have anything to do with GNU. There's no 'battle' against anyone nor anything! We are just using a open source software that enables us to tweak things if the need arises. > > I'd say that if you want to use Window Maker, then use it. > > We'd rather fork it. I see. That only reinforces my point about assimilation. > We appreciate your 6 years of maintenance. However, almost all of > Window Maker's code is copyrighted by Alfredo K. Kojima the original > author and GNU maintainer who developed it, originally, for the GNU > project. The Window Maker's history is strongly linked to the GNU > project, and knowledgeable people know that. Actually Window Maker's > documentation is filled with explicit references to that fact. Are you suggesting that we are not knowledgeable enough to know about the history of the software we work with? That we cannot read the copyright notices in the files? Or that we are pretending to have written Window Maker from scratch in the last 6 years? > If the GNU project decides to maintain GNU Window Maker, do you think > our version will be considered a fork of yours, or the converse? > > The GNU project is really sorry that you've declined to cooperate, > because our policy is to avoid a fork by all means. Now, > unfortunately, we have no choice. You always have the choice to not be a fanatic, embrace diversity and to not impose your views on others. -- To unsubscribe, send mail to wmaker-dev-unsubscr...@lists.windowmaker.org.
