Henri, that does sound like it would work.

The only thing to watch with your method, is that you block legitimate users
that happen to key in the wrong address.

I've had great success with greylisting (glst from Davide).
I did have to tweak it a bit to deal with the likes of hotmail/yahoo/etc
because of their many sending MTAs.

Rob :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Henri van Riel
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:23 AM
To: Jeff Buehler
Cc: xmail@xmailserver.org
Subject: [xmail] Re: Spammers - How to block them.


Hi Jeff,

> You can run ASSP on a different server than XMail.  Also, you can use 
> it simply to verify that the address being sent to is a valid one - it 
> does not need to perform Bayesian -filter based SPAM blocking unless 
> you want it to (you could open up the ruleset, or you can have it 
> simply tag the email that goes through with something if it thinks 
> it's SPAM).  If what you need is to be able to close sessions to 
> invalid addresses quickly, that is the only way I know how to do it.

I'll certainly look into it but I don't like the idea of having to run
something in front of XMail... Also, I'd need to install Perl on my
mailserver which is *strictly* a mailserver.

> What you suggest might work, but spammers domains and addresses change 
> very rapidly, so I'm not certain you would actually cut down the 
> volume much, and you would end up having to process all of that email.  
> ASSP will simply terminate the session more or less immediately if it 
> doesn't like the email, the sender, or the address, or any combination 
> of those things.

I don't have to process that much email though. First of all, my new
CustMapsList filters out a lot of spam. If the sender seems ok, XMail first
checks if the recipient is known. If not, it redirects it to my catch-all
account. While it is doing that, the filters.pre-data.tab filter kicks in
*before* the data command, only the headers have arrived so far. Next, my
script will get the ip address from those headers and exits with code 3
which makes XMail to terminate the connection. Mail with a valid recipient
will still go through the filter but that's not a problem.

Sounds to me that it could work! ;)

--
Henri.



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