Hi.
None of our active devs really use Windows on a regular basis.
I wonder if it was a good idea to port to that platform, since that
raises expectations on the user side.
Simon Eigeldinger writes:
> Hi,
>
> Have redone that with admin privileges.
> Forgot about that. :-)
> Seems we have the
Harry Bell writes:
[...]
> How can I get my newly set up Ubuntu 24.04 laptop to accept my focus Blue 14
> 5th Gen Braille display as an input device for typing and giving commands to
> navigate the screen?
> I have installed Ubuntu 24.4 along with Orca and the MATE desktop. I have
> run
Hammer Attila writes:
> A close friend of mine only has 64-bit Windows 11 (maybe 2023 h2).
> Do you think it is possible to connect this display with a USB serial
> converter via a serial cable?
Well, I don't know the hardware, but if it still has a serial port, this
is definitely something to
Hammer Attila writes:
> Hello,
>
> I doed a detailed test (unfortunatelly without success result) to follow
> back what versions of BRLTTY worked right previous this old Focus1 modell.
Do you have current evidence that the device works at all?
In other words, have you successfully initialized
"Jason J.G. White" writes:
> On 18/3/24 14:49, Sébastien Hinderer wrote:
>
> I confess that the document felt too long for me to try to study it so I
> am just passing the link,, with the hope that it wiill be of interest to
> somebody on the list.
>
> This appeared in social media recently as
Lars Bjørndal writes:
> I've a Raspberry Pi 3B+ connected to a Handy Tech Active Braille braille
> display. I use it with BRLTTY only, no graphical UI. After switching
> from Raspberry pi OS Bullseye 32-bit to bookworm
> 64-bit, I experience from time to time that I have to use bluetoothctl's
>
Nicolas Pitre writes:
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Dave Mielke wrote:
>
>> [quoted lines by Crystal Kolipe on 2023/06/25 at 21:17 -0300]
>>
>> >It's certainly possible to patch OpenBSD to implement a screen
>> readout device that would potentially allow brltty to access the
>> console independently
Nicolas Pitre writes:
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Dave Mielke wrote:
>
>> [quoted lines by Christian Schoepplein on 2023/06/25 at 20:59 +0200]
>>
>> >For me it is OK to set
>> >
>> >dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti=1
>> >
>> >in /etc/sysctlconf as a workaround like Rob suggested, thanks Rob for this
>>
Halim Sahin writes:
> I've connected an usb keyboard with a ps/2 converter to my braillestar
> 80.
>
> This way I can use the display with two different machines.
I recommend getting an USB switch and connecting the Braille Star and
the USB Keyboard to it. These are cheap, and it should work
"Dr. Volker Jaenisch" writes:
> Dear Sébastien!
>
> Am 17.01.23 um 21:05 schrieb Sébastien Hinderer:
>
> # highlight-braille-window-location: no {no yes}
> highlight-braille-window-location yes
>
> Just to check twice. This settings indicates for sighted users the location of
> the braille
Halim Sahin writes:
> I've connected a Keyboard to my braillestar and use brltty 6.3.
I am assuing it is a Braille Star 40?
> The display is connected via usb or serial (both tested).
>
> The keyboard works well most of the time but.
>
> 1. sometimes the pc doesn't get keyreleases reliably
>
Dave Mielke writes:
>>So i will skip that and look forward to a release of Asahi linux.
>>Its still in beta testing.
>
> What's that?
Asahi Linux is an attempt to build a Linux distribution tailored
especially to run on current Apple hardware (CPU and GPU).
For those long enough in the
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL writes:
> I am trying a FOcus 80 (freedom scientific) I have just fixed.
What exactly do you mean by "I have just fixed". Was the device broken
and you did send it in for repair? Or did you do a repair on your own,
or perhaps a friend of yours? If the device was
Raphaël POITEVIN writes:
> I recently had an idea. I would try Alpine Linux. Thi distribution is
> tinny and maybe faster at boot.
>
> Have you ever tested?
No, I haven't tried Alpine Linux yet. I played a bit with buildroot as
a tool to create a image for a rpi. It was fun until I realized
discapacidad5 writes:
> For a long time I have been looking for supports for alba satellite 570
> braille
> displays. And apparently there are only drivers for very old 32 bits and there
> has been no way to make it work with 64 bits because the drivers are not
> available
I dont know which
Hi.
Since I was recently (more or less humorously) verbally attacked for
being a linux terminal user ("The stuff you are working with is 30 years
old and all outdated"), and just used DESCCHAR to reveal a smirking face
emoji hidden behind a question mark, I wanted to express my amazement
again
Samuel Thibault writes:
> Mario Lang, le ven. 13 mai 2022 07:12:54 +0200, a ecrit:
>> Samuel Thibault writes:
>>
>> > As reported on Ubuntu which happens to install brltty by default in its
>> > latest release, the udev rules for braille devices with generi
Samuel Thibault writes:
> As reported on Ubuntu which happens to install brltty by default in its
> latest release, the udev rules for braille devices with generic USB IDs
> are hurting people that have hardware that use the same usb-serial chip.
This is a long solved problem.
Hi.
Just a quick heads up to tmux users. As you might have noticed, tmux
does not use the cursor in its prompt (C-b :), which screen always did
as we would like. Someone must have talked to the tmux maintainers,
because the following changelog entry can be found in tmux git:
CHANGES FROM 3.2a
Dave Mielke writes:
> [quoted lines by Sebastian Humenda on 2022/05/06 at 10:29 +0200]
>
>>For my purposes, it would be even better if it were a mode, i.e. if the mode
>>is enabled, LNDN == KEY_CURSOR_DOWN and LNUP == KEY_CURSOR_UP, and left/right
>>have the described behaviour. If off,
Aura Kelloniemi writes:
> Hi,
>
> On 2022-04-07 at 21:20 +0200, Mario Lang wrote:
> > Aura Kelloniemi writes:
> > > So if you have any remarks that might be useful for me (including
> possible
> > > deficiencies of the newest Focus Blue), I'm very inte
Aura Kelloniemi writes:
> Active braille's key layout is also not very ergonomic in my opinion,
> as the display has been designed to be used with the ATC mechanism,
> which is not very handy in terminal usage scenarios (and probably not
> available in BRLTTY).
Wrong. BRLTTY implements ATC
Aura Kelloniemi writes:
> Hello,
>
> On 2022-02-11 at 02:30 +0100, Mario Lang wrote:
> > Working on a Haskell binding for BrlAPI.
>
> Excellent!
>
> > The following example works:
> [--]
> > main = withConnection "" ":0" $ \c -> d
Hi.
Working on a Haskell binding for BrlAPI.
The following example works:
module Main where
import Control.Monad (void)
import BrlAPI
main :: IO ()
main = withConnection "" ":0" $ \c -> do
dn <- getDriverName c
mi <- getModelIdentifier c
(x, _) <- getDisplaySize c
withTty c (Just 5)
Sébastien Hinderer writes:
> It seems the cleanest solution is to switch from PulseAudo to PipeWire
> so I'll have to continue experimenting with that.
Whatever you do, switching *away* from PulseAudio is likely the right
solution.
Even no sound is better then trying to use PulseAudio.
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Hi.
I personally find it easier to just enable remote login on my Mac and
ssh to it from a linux machine. This gives me the same thing you are
aiming for, BRLTTY for working with a Mac on the command-line, but I
dont have to fiddle with BRLTTY actually running on the Mac.
Zachary Kline writes:
Aura Kelloniemi writes:
> I would like to hear from you, is there any display on the market, which
>
> 1) has an SD card slot for transfering files
>
> 2) supports Unicode braille in text files in its firmware text viewer
>
> 3) supports editing Unicode braille in text files (i.e. typing Unicode
deniz sincar writes:
> what is to and from in the writecells thing?
The TSI protocol supports partial updates. The `from` and `to` parameters
of the writeCells() function pass the start and end of the cells which
should be updated.
> and translateoutputcell.
translateOutputCells() basically
Dave Mielke writes:
> Does iOS no longer support the Baum protocol?
> I'd think that some new Baum model, e.g. the VarioUltra, would be a
> better fit. Then all you'd need is strict pass through.
If the iOS model-detection works the way we assume, yes.
The problem here is that how Apple detects
deniz sincar writes:
> Hello. as i don't understand brltty driver code, i want to learn the
> tsi braille display driver serial communication protocol in a human
> understandable language.
I am afraid we dont have exhaustive protocol description in human
readable form. Use the source is pretty
Samuel Thibault writes:
> Hello,
>
> Mario Lang, le ven. 24 sept. 2021 09:47:58 +0200, a ecrit:
>> Does anyone know if there is a way to bind a specific input device to a
>> virtual console?
>
> Apparently, drivers/tty/vt/keyboard.c still doesn't do any input mi
Hi.
Does anyone know if there is a way to bind a specific input device to a
virtual console? I am trying to implement a second "seat" in the sense
of systemd-logind. Unfortunately, according to the systemd docs, a
separate seat would require a graphical session to work. However, I am
trying to
Sébastien Hinderer writes:
> Are you in a way saying that it would be helpful also for text
> application to be able to export their structure somehow, as graphical
> ones do?
No, actually not. The idea of speech-enabled applications goes a little
further. There is the counterargument of
Sébastien Hinderer writes:
> Samuel Thibault (2021/08/30 18:56 +0200):
>> Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 30 août 2021 17:54:29 +0200, a ecrit:
>> > Regarding the counting feature, I find it very clever! But then I'm
>> > wondering, why not ocunting tabs directly?
>>
>> The screen reader cannot
resulting configuration is setting it back to clang. No
>> I’m definitely not running the stock Mac screen binary by mistake,
>> because in testing I included the full path. By “runs fine“ I mean
>> the resulting screen binary runs and seems otherwise to perform
>> normally
Didier Spaier writes:
> Le 09/05/2021 à 23:09, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
>> Didier Spaier, le dim. 09 mai 2021 23:02:49 +0200, a ecrit:
>>> Still, this could be an issue for audiophiles, but they can use jack.
>> Speech-based screen reading also requires very low latency to get
>> snappy
>>
Raphaël POITEVIN writes:
> Grate! Is there a documentation? I dn't understand what to do.
It works like any other tetris clone, but sideways.
So tetriminos "fall" from right to left. The playing field is 20 dots
wide and 10 dots high. Moving the falling tetriminos up/down (with the
cursor
Hi.
To avoid building and installing betris altogether, you can now simply
do
ssh bet...@blind.guru
to play the game. This works on Linux as well as on Windows 10.
Mac OS X tesers welcome.
Happy gaming
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Lars Bjørndal writes:
> I'm using a Handy Tech Modular Evolution 88 braille display. I noticed
> that B1+B8+Left/Right didn't activate braille input, as expected.
As you say, "as expected".
> I can fix this by creating a local table addition, but maybe it should
> be set in the defaults for
Alexander Epaneshnikov writes:
> hello. when I try to build latest master (a7942a637) I get this:
DId you try running ./autogen?
Sometimes, when things in the build system fail, you need
to re-run ./autogen and/or ./configure to re-build the infrastructure
for building the source...
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Howard Traxler writes:
> Sébastien., I tried to get the Marion program from github but I
> couldn't find a download link. How does one download from there?
Now that I think of it, if you are running Debian, or one of its
derivatives, you might also be able to install yatm by executing
apt
Dave Mielke writes:
> [quoted lines by Raphaël POITEVIN on 2021/03/22 at 11:51 +0100]
>
>>It seems not working on my Active Star.
>
> Yes, because the ht key tables don't include the common chords
> subtable. Perhaps this could be done. I don't perso0nally have access
> to an ht device so I'm a
Dave Mielke writes:
> Brltty can be built so that it doesn't contain support for contracted braille
> -
> via its configure's --disable-contracted-braille option. I'd like to remove
> this capability, so I'm asking if anyone out there has a good reason not to do
> this.
The original reason,
Dave Mielke writes:
> [quoted lines by Florian Beijers on 2021/02/10 at 17:14 +0100]
>
>>manually trusting the device first,
>
> Trusting only matters insofar as when connection to the host is being
> requested
> by the device. That isn't the case with brltty, i.e. it's always the case that
>
Florian Beijers writes:
> I see a whole lot of RFCOMM errors, either connection refused or resource
> busy.
> What would that indicate?
My first question would be: Are you sure you have correctly paired the
device? Does bluetoothctl report it as paired?
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Florian Beijers writes:
> Just tried pairing my APH Mantis q40 to a Kali machine running brltty 6.3, but
> brltty seems to be unable to recognize it.
> I''ve set the brailleDevice directive in brltty.conf to Bluetooth:address,
> where
> address is the address info returns from the bluectl
deniz sincar writes:
> or send me documentation how the serial bites are sent to display to
> rise dots on cells?
The source code is the documentation.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/brltty/brltty/master/Drivers/Braille/TSI/braille.c
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deniz sincar writes:
> but i want it to act like a bluetooth focus 40 or something that
> support iphone, and converts it to tsi braille protocol.
There is no such thing. It would need to be written.
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deniz sincar writes:
> i want to try to make a tsi braille driver for nvda without using brltty.
This question is probably best asked on a NVDA devs list.
> how to do this? what are the communication packages for the display?
What is a "communication package"? I would assume you already know
Dave Mielke writes:
> [quoted lines by S. Massy on 2021/01/04 at 20:04 -0500]
>
>>Switching away from EN_US.UTF8 to fix date formats,
>
> You might find that en_IE is better than en_GB for that as it keeps the
> overall
> output format of the date command the same.
The different LC_*
Sebastian Humenda writes:
> Hi Mario
>
> Mario Lang schrieb am 05.12.2020, 21:27 +0100:
>>Sebastian Humenda writes:
>>
>>> Mario Lang schrieb am 04.12.2020, 17:46 +0100:
>>>>To all german users: I just noticed there is no mapping in de.ttb which
Sebastian Humenda writes:
> Mario Lang schrieb am 04.12.2020, 17:46 +0100:
>>To all german users: I just noticed there is no mapping in de.ttb which
>>maps to a sole dot 7. Any objections to mapping non-breaking spaces to
>>dot 7?
>
> Why would you like to show non
Hi.
To all german users: I just noticed there is no mapping in de.ttb which
maps to a sole dot 7. Any objections to mapping non-breaking spaces to
dot 7?
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Aura Kelloniemi writes:
> If I have many BRLTTYinstances running, will BrlAPI clients connect to
> the right BRLTTY (i.e. will the latest BRLTTY be able to override the
> BrlAPI server for the previously started instances)?
There is no way to automatically determine what the "right" BRLTTY
Alex ARNAUD writes:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm helping a blind user with a Freedom Scientific focus blue with the id
> "0f4e:0114". I don't know the exact model sorry. It seems lsusb dosn't provide
> us detailed informations about the device.
lsusb -v refusing to provide details usually means even
Samuel Thibault writes:
> Lars Bjørndal, le ven. 20 nov. 2020 20:36:21 +0100, a ecrit:
>> > For debian users, I have uploaded a snapshot of 6.2 in the experimental
>> > distribution (versioned 6.2~pre+dfsg-1) so you can try it easily.
>>
>> Do you happen to also be responsible for the raspbian
Mario Lang writes:
> root@x1:/etc/xdg/brltty# cat fr-names.ctb
> include fr-abrege.ctb
> always poitevin =
Actually, now that I think again, you probably want to use the keyword
"word" instead of "always". "word" will, as the name implies, only
match com
raphael.poite...@gmail.com (Raphaël POITEVIN) writes:
> Dave Mielke writes:
>
>> The contraction table itself would have to define that. I doubt that name
>> detection is simple since, for example, the first word of a sentence is
>> capitalized.
>
> echo "POITEVIN" | brltty-ctb -cfr-abrege
>
Sébastien Hinderer writes:
> Hello Mario, many thanks for your message!
>
> Mario Lang (2020/10/06 13:00 +0200):
>> Sébastien Hinderer writes:
>>
>> > Raphaël POITEVIN (2020/10/06 10:21 +0200):
>> >> Maybe a cron running a script which check the b
brandybu...@protonmail.com writes:
> Has anyone tried using braille with the mantis q40 by aph? My friend recently
> aquired one and is looking for support. Me too, as i'm getting this exact
> display. I always wonder how those work, i wonder if it runs android. But my
> friend plugged it into
Bertil Smark Nilsson writes:
> I'm having problems connecting my Humanware BI 14 to my Debian 9
> machine via usb.
Looking at the BRLTTY ChangeLog, it appears there was a
problem with the BI 14 via USB which was fixed in BRLTTY 6.0.
However, Debian 9 (codename stretch) has BRLTTY 5.4.
If you
Sébastien Hinderer writes:
> Raphaël POITEVIN (2020/10/06 10:21 +0200):
>> Maybe a cron running a script which check the battery level with
>> acpi. You can send a sound.
>
> Yeah that could be an option indeed. Thanks!
if [ $(cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/capacity) -lt 10 ]
then play sound
Mika Hanhijärvi writes:
> I just would like to create my own braille tetris :-)
I have written a braille tetris recently.
However, it does not use BrlAPI, it uses Unicode Braille characters to
display the state of the game directly on the console.
You can find it here:
"John J. Boyer" writes:
> Consider the following deeply indented Python statement.
> wordType = adverb
> There are five tabs. I would like BRLTTY to replace them with simicolons
> ;wordType = adverb
> This feature
"John J. Boyer" writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am considering trying to help with the development of Orca. However,
> I need a way to indicate indentation in Python.
> I thought of trying to get emacs to do this, but it is really the
> business of the screenreader. So I am wondering if BRLTY has a way
Emacs users, although I guess
it could be used as the main audio desktop if you want to go that way.
BRLTTY should be easy to plug in, if you are either using virtual
terminals or something that requires Orca.
>
> -r
>
> P.S. There is at least one physical keyboard which isn't tot
Hi.
I am looking for someone who has used a ALVA Satellite 584 Pro at some
point. I am trying to debug one which is slightly unstable when used
via USB. I was hoping to just use the serial port, but for some reason
I can not turn the device on without USB connected.
Does anyone know, was there
oth]# connect E0:7D:EA:E7:91:FF
As far as I understand, you shouldn't need to use connect.
Did you read Documents/README.Bluetooth?
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Stéphane Doyon writes:
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2019, Dave Mielke wrote:
>
>> Your brlapi_constants.h is nearly empty. It should be much larger - mine has
>> a
>> little over 400 lines in it. This looks very similar to a problem that was
>> reported, here, about a week ago. The problem was that some of
Anders Holmberg writes:
> After i type make -s should i then do make install or just try to run
> the ./run-brltty?
run-brltty was written so that you can run brltty from its build
directory without having to install it. In other words, always use
run-brltty if you are just testing a
Sebastian Humenda writes:
> I am looking for the different logging options that I could pass to BRLTTY to
> log different event categories, e.g., speech or keyboard input.
brltty -H
...
-l lvl|cat,...--log-level= Logging level (0-7 or one of
Lars Bjørndal writes:
> I had to reinstall my Windows pc at work. Previously I used BRLTTY and
> Cygwin SSH to access remote servers. That worked pretty well. Anyway I'd
> like to ask if it's better, nowadays, to use the linux console in
> Windows, than using Cygwin.
I had pretty good results
rmgls writes:
> i am trying to build a binary
Which binary, exactly? And how do you try to build it?
> and clang complains about -lcrt0.o not found.
What is the exact error message?
> msdos is not disabled by default?
This bit doesn't make a lot of sense in the given context.
In general,
[Top-posting to keep the answer short.]
Hi.
I personally use the binding of CURSOR_UP and CURSOR_DOWN quite a lot.
And, as you already said, if I don't want to reach all the way to the
right, I use the SPACE keys to pan horizontally.
Sébastien Hinderer writes:
> Dear all,
>
> This message is
Sébastien Hinderer writes:
> The message below may be of interest.
Wow, it took them what, 4 or 5 years? to steal this feature from iOS :-)
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discapacidad5 writes:
> El lun., 23 dic. 2019 a las 13:49, Dave Mielke () escribió:
>
> The braille line has a built-in braille keyboard, the part of the braille
> line and navigation work well, but the 8-point typing keyboard that it brings
> built in does not work
You likely need to switch
Lars Bjørndal writes:
> I recently installed Fedora 30 to a Raspberry pi 3B+. Now, I have the
> problem that my Handy Tech Active Braille sometimes will not connect
> when BRLTTY starts. Instead I get the message Pair y/n on the
> display. If I answer
> yes, I get the pairing question
Dave Mielke writes:
> [quoted lines by Mario Lang on 2019/11/01 at 19:40 +0100]
>
>>Trying to switch from screen to tmux, I notice that the command prompt
>>(^B :) does not use the hardware cursor. screen does use the hardware
>>cursor for the same kind of fu
Hi.
Trying to switch from screen to tmux, I notice that the command prompt
(^B :) does not use the hardware cursor. screen does use the hardware
cursor for the same kind of functionality. I've had a look in the tmux
source, but so far haven't really manage to come up with anything
useful. I
Devin Prater writes:
> Hi all. I have a Vario Ultra 20 with dots that don't work, in cells 6, 7,
> and somewhere around 18 and 19. Is there a way in BRLTTY to have those
> cells skipped, so that braille simply continues on the next uneffected
> cell? Of course, this would have to be set up by
Dave Mielke writes:
> I've tried to set things up again on a real Windows 10 system. That should
> work
> except that there's one annoying problem. I need a usable editing environment,
> but, when I log into Windows via ssh, vim's cursor isn't working rght. So far,
> I haven't found a solution
Lars Bjørndal writes:
> Hi, Mario!
>
> You wrote:
>
>> Lars Bjørndal writes:
>>
>> > My point is that I can do pretty much without a QWERTY keyboard,
>> > while using the keyboard on Actilino for input. However, in the
>> > defualt keyboard layout, I cannot find a funcion to simulate the Home
Lars Bjørndal writes:
> My point is that I can do pretty much without a QWERTY keyboard,
> while using the keyboard on Actilino for input. However, in the
> defualt keyboard layout, I cannot find a funcion to simulate the Home
> and End functions.
What about adding the following to
Lars Bjørndal writes:
> However, I miss the possibility to perform the Home and End
> keys, for instance in Mutt to go to the first (which is not a problem,
> you can type 1) and last message.
"miss" compared to what? How did you perform these actions in the past?
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Mario Lang writes:
> Samuel Thibault writes:
>
>> It seems CLDR does include an Emoji section that could perhaps be used?
>>
>> http://cldr.unicode.org/translation/short-names-and-keywords
>
> We seem to have found a parseable list of emojis and their translations
Samuel Thibault writes:
> It seems CLDR does include an Emoji section that could perhaps be used?
>
> http://cldr.unicode.org/translation/short-names-and-keywords
We seem to have found a parseable list of emojis and their translations
(thanks to Simon).
Hi.
With the upcoming full unicode console support, I am wondering if we
want to handle emojis in contracted braille mode?
The english case could be autogenerated from the unicode names I guess.
But for other languages, we'd need a list of translations.
Given that, brltty should probably
Samuel Thibault writes:
>> P.S.: Unicode Braille is so very useful. I totally hope the /dev/vcsu
>> patch will be merged!
>
> It is merged already, actually, in time for 4.19.
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Nicolas Pitre writes:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018, Mario Lang wrote:
>
>> I'd be interested in feedback.
>> I have only tested it with one other blind person yet.
>>
>> It is a haskell projeect. To install, run:
>>
>> $ cabal update
>> $ cabal install
Hi.
Off topic, because not strictly BRLTTY related. However, this game is
only useful to braille users, and currently only ported to UNIX-like
OSes, so here is probably the best place to announce it:
More or less to proof a point, I implemented a horizontal
version of tetris using Braille dots
Lars Bjørndal writes:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 01:25:13PM -0500, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote:
>> Is there any way to change screen windows using the braille display
>> keyboard? Doing control-a and then the number or control-a and then the
>> letter c is what works using the computer keyboard, but
Alex ARNAUD writes:
> I'm trying to help a blind user who have a HandyTech Actilino device
> but I'm unable to make it to go up one line for example on BRLTTY 5.5
> on Debian 9 "Stretch".
>
> I've follow this documentation:
>
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