Hi Janine,
Of the links that you mentioned I was only able to get one of them to work,
but I searched for friendlier IRC clients and I think I've found one. It's
called Kiwi IRC. I'll ask the Freenode people what they think about
changing their default web client to Kiwi. If they want to keep
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote:
5. Better cheat sheets are needed. People complain about how cluttered and
overwhelming they are. Just like our online help pages. They're full of
Wikipediababblespeak and not to the point.
6. More guides on how to
On 8/2/2014 1:37 AM, Keilana wrote:
To briefly go back to what Sarah and Marie have said, I do find that
in person hand-holding and social support are the most effective
factors in getting women to stick around. I don't know how to
translate that from the real-world environment I teach newbies
IRC is almost embarrassingly old technology; Wikimedia Foundation
projects are the only place I've seen it mentioned in the last five
years or more.
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
We already have #wikipedia-en-help which is remarkably good for a volunteer
That's exactly my point, Pine. This kind of inside-baseball geekery is
so much Choctaw to the ordinary new editor we are trying to recruit
and retain, people more likely to be using Pinterest or Skype or
Ravelry to communicate with peers and mentors.
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Pine W
Exactly. IRC is for the old school and ubergeek. And as Sue has said in the
past - we're only going to retain specific types of people to be long
term editors (ubergeeks like us) but, if we can figure out a solution to
help out the average joe/sphine editor...
then huzzah. That's what the
I think we are talking past each other. The issue I responded to was about
live help, which we offer, is used extensively for English Wikipedia, and
should be respected. Advertising the existing service to more editors is
surely better than not doing so. If we are talking about longer-term
Thank you, Sarah. I hope that subjects like this will be part of the
discussion in Washington, whether I get to go or not. (I have applied,
but I'm an old white male so….)
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote:
Exactly. IRC is for the old school and
There are plenty of people using IRC, but many of them don't know it. There are chatroom/IRC hybrids, generally on forum
sites. You embed the chat window in a web page, and anyone can join in. Those who want can use any IRC client to get to the
same channel, but with more features.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Carol Moore dc
carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote:
Then I looked at this political poster image
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Courageous_Cunts.jpg
which leads to this site http://courageouscunts.com/
I think nobody has bothered to write much on the
To briefly go back to what Sarah and Marie have said, I do find that in
person hand-holding and social support are the most effective factors in
getting women to stick around. I don't know how to translate that from the
real-world environment I teach newbies in to the virtual environment of new
On 7/30/2014 11:39 PM, LB wrote:
Twice during my short discussion about how to start a civility board,
which turned into a long discussion about the word c*nt, an Admin gave
the link to the Commons search results for that word, saying that
showed that the text of the word isn't very
Twice during my short discussion about how to start a civility board, which
turned into a long discussion about the word c*nt, an Admin gave the link
to the Commons search results for that word, saying that showed that the
text of the word isn't very offensive. WTF?!
On Jul 30, 2014 7:55 PM,
the participation of women within Wikimedia projects.
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons
While this can work in some situations, in a Wiki run by volunteers you rely
on people to accurately self-classify their work, which many would not. Or
you rely on other volunteers changing
Ryan, thanks for bringing this up for discussion. I've put a lot of thought
into the series of photos this comes from over the years, and it's well
worth some discussion. I'd like to hear what others think about this. Here
is a link to the category for the larger collection; warning, there's lots
Personally, I don't think it's worth having a discussion here about the
merits of deleting these images. There's no chance in hell they are going
to be deleted from Commons. What I'm more interested in is the locker-room
nature of the discussions and how/if this can be addressed, as I think that
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Personally, I don't think it's worth having a discussion here about the
merits of deleting these images. There's no chance in hell they are going
to be deleted from Commons. What I'm more interested in is the
On 7/23/2014 5:10 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
Personally, I don't think it's worth having a discussion here about
the merits of deleting these images. There's no chance in hell they
are going to be deleted from Commons. What I'm more interested in is
the locker-room nature of the discussions and
...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Kaldari
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2014 7:11 AM
To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the
participationof women within Wikimedia projects.
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons
Personally, I don't think it's worth
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