Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-15 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
Thanks, Carl. Thanks also to all others that have chimed in expressing their support, asking questions, and providing feedback. I'll be starting the vote shortly. -Jesús On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 7:32 PM Carl Steinbach wrote: > Please go ahead with the vote. > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 6:13 PM

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-15 Thread Carl Steinbach
Please go ahead with the vote. On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 6:13 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote: > Hi Carl, > > Your last message did not provide many details and we have not heard back > from you after a day; I'd appreciate any updates or insights into > your thought process that you could share.

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-15 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
Hi Carl, Your last message did not provide many details and we have not heard back from you after a day; I'd appreciate any updates or insights into your thought process that you could share. As JB mentioned, I see no reason to delay the vote to move into incubation. Community growth is one of

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-15 Thread Ashvin A
Hi All, +1 to JB's points. Thanks Jesus for steering this discussion. I wholeheartedly support XTable. The potential of this initiative is immense, especially considering feedback from storage formats users and the benchmark we've been developing. I'm eagerly looking forward to collaborating with

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi, I think that's also the purpose of the incubation to grow the community, both users community but also dev communities. So, I don't see a blocker for incubation but more for graduation. I would start with the initial committer list with the target to grow during incubation, including people

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-14 Thread Carl Steinbach
Hi Jesus, Please wait one more day to start the vote. Thanks. - Carl On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 3:59 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote: > Carl and others, thanks for the feedback. If you have any remaining > questions or concerns, please let me know. I just want to make sure they > are all

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-14 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
Carl and others, thanks for the feedback. If you have any remaining questions or concerns, please let me know. I just want to make sure they are all addressed before we start the vote thread --- planning to begin later today if possible. -Jesús On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 8:06 PM Jesus Camacho

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-13 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
Carl, thanks for chiming in. Certainly, let me address that part. Concerning the initial list of committers: While the project originated from Onehouse (a company whose offering is powered by Apache Hudi), it's important to highlight that there has been an effort to have an initial list of

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-13 Thread Jacques Nadeau
I appreciate the name update. That addresses my concern there. Thanks for the quick update! If only all namings I've been involved in were that quick :) On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 11:49 AM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote: > The package would be xtable. > As for the pronunciation, I was pronouncing it

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-13 Thread Carl Steinbach
Hi Jesús, This is a great project, and I am eager to see it added to the incubator. It's great to see that the naming issue is being addressed, but could you also respond to the other concern Jacques raised about the need to broaden the list of initial committers to include members of the

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-13 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
The package would be xtable. As for the pronunciation, I was pronouncing it as "eks table"... But it's not something that has been discussed, I assume we are leaving it to the interpretation of the reader for the time being :) -Jesús On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:54 AM Julian Hyde wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-13 Thread Julian Hyde
Pronounced “eks table” I presume, and not “cross table” or “times table”? The Java package prefix would be org.apache.xtable, not x_table. (It’s good to check. I’m still traumatized whenever I have to say “PostgreSQL” out loud.) Julian > On Dec 13, 2023, at 7:13 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Jesus Yes, we first have to trigger the vote to accept XTable into the incubator. As soon as the vote pass (hopefully), we have to trigger the name search. Regards JB On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:06 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote: > > Thanks JB. Based on the guidelines described here [1], I

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-13 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
Thanks JB. Based on the guidelines described here [1], I was going to run the name search process for XTable after the project is accepted for incubation, but before we start to request resources. -Jesús [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#startsearch On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Thanks Jesus XTable sounds good but we need a name search anyway to be sure it's suitable. Regards JB On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote: > > I've updated the proposal with the new name: XTable. You can review it > here:

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi, I think it makes sense to start a name search process asap. I don't know if OneTable is an acceptable name (I doubt that :)), but it's worth checking. I did some name search already (for instance https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-205), so let me know if you want me to

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-12 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
I've updated the proposal with the new name: XTable. You can review it here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/XTable+Proposal (please also see _Project Name_ subsection) We hope this change addresses the concern that was raised during this discussion, helping to convey a

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-11 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
Thanks Julian. I was mainly considering the code, but, as you mentioned, it's probably not the primary concern. The current proposal aligns with your feedback: The project will go through the vote (and hopefully be accepted into the incubator) using the new name, so all the infra and project setup

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-11 Thread Julian Hyde
Much easier to change the name before incubation. It’s not so much code as all the infrastructure (mailing lists, git repos, web servers, svn files, …) that goes along with a podling. It’s a lot of work for INFRA and for the PPMC/champion. Also, branding. Calcite entered incubation as ‘Optiq’

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-11 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
Thanks to everyone who expressed support and offered help. It's great to see that the project's mission resonates with so many different people. Jacques, we acknowledge your concern about the project name. We are working on selecting a new name for ASF incubation that avoids confusion with any

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-11 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Of course, it's a big +1 one for me. The purpose is interesting, creating "connection" with other Apache projects. Happy to be a mentor on this proposal and contribute to the project :) Thanks ! Regards JB On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:23 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote: > > Hi All, > > I would

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-08 Thread Stephen Williams
I am interested in participating in this.  I have a particular interest in creating a new style of architecture for open distributed workflow processing that would leverage this kind of solution. Stephen On 12/8/23 10:37 AM, Jacques Nadeau wrote: FYI, I'm super supportive of the spirit of

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-08 Thread Jacques Nadeau
FYI, I'm super supportive of the spirit of this work. The goal of the project is a noble one that has real demand. Sorry if my initial message sounded dour! I just wanted to make sure people were going in eyes wide open and give this project the best chance for success. On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, 8:28

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-08 Thread Jacques Nadeau
I've shared this feedback with Jesus prior to the proposal but would like to do here as well. This project is trying to make multiple open source projects work together. It would be nice to see representation from multiple of those communities. I feel that true success of this project is heavily

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-08 Thread Ismaël Mejía
Thanks for the info PJ, done ! On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 11:29 PM PJ Fanning wrote: > Hi Ismaël, > Could you make a request to join the Incubator PMC? ASF members will > be accepted into the PMC. It's just that podling mentors need to be > part of the PMC. > Requests are made to the

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-07 Thread 俊平堵
Hi Jesus, The project looks interesting to me. I am available for a mentor. Thanks, JP Jesus Camacho Rodriguez 于2023年12月5日周二 05:25写道: > Hi All, > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - OneTable. > > OneTable[1] is an omni-directional converter for table formats

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-07 Thread larry mccay
Interesting. I am available as a mentor if you are interested. On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 5:30 PM PJ Fanning wrote: > Hi Ismaël, > Could you make a request to join the Incubator PMC? ASF members will > be accepted into the PMC. It's just that podling mentors need to be > part of the PMC. >

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-07 Thread PJ Fanning
Hi Ismaël, Could you make a request to join the Incubator PMC? ASF members will be accepted into the PMC. It's just that podling mentors need to be part of the PMC. Requests are made to the priv...@incubator.apache.org list. Regards, PJ On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 at 23:20, Ismaël Mejía wrote: > > Hello

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-07 Thread Ismaël Mejía
Hello Jesus, I am interested on both contributing to this project as a committer, and as an ASF member I want to volunteer to mentor the project during incubation. I am a committer and part of the PMC of both Apache Beam and Apache Avro so I am close to this space so glad to help where I can.

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-06 Thread Tim Bossenmaier
OneTable is a really interesting project, would be great to have it in the ASF incubator. Am 04.12.2023 22:23 schrieb Jesus Camacho Rodriguez: > Hi All, > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - OneTable. > > OneTable[1] is an omni-directional converter for table formats

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-06 Thread Nicholas Jiang
Interesting project for LakeHouse. Looking forward to seeing OneTable integrate with Apache Paimon(Incubating). Regards, Nicholas Jiang On 2023/12/04 21:23:17 Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote: > Hi All, > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - OneTable. > > OneTable[1] is

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-05 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
While Apache Arrow and OneTable both broadly aim for interoperability, they have different goals. Arrow focuses on creating an in-memory columnar data representation for use across multiple engines and applications. On the other hand, OneTable serves as a converter for table formats that (1) does

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-04 Thread Yuanbo Liu
What are the differences between OneTable and Apache Arrow On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 11:11 AM Jeff Zhang wrote: > Seems an interesting project, looking forward to seeing it get into the > apache incubator. > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 7:14 AM Felix Cheung > wrote: > > > Interesting. Let me know if

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-04 Thread Jeff Zhang
Seems an interesting project, looking forward to seeing it get into the apache incubator. On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 7:14 AM Felix Cheung wrote: > Interesting. Let me know if I can be of help as mentor > > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 1:35 PM Austin Bennett wrote: > > > Awesome -- OneTable has a great

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-04 Thread Felix Cheung
Interesting. Let me know if I can be of help as mentor On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 1:35 PM Austin Bennett wrote: > Awesome -- OneTable has a great purpose/mission, and can be really > useful! I look forward to helping where I am able. > > > On 2023/12/04 21:23:17 Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote: > >

Re: [DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-04 Thread Austin Bennett
Awesome -- OneTable has a great purpose/mission, and can be really useful! I look forward to helping where I am able. On 2023/12/04 21:23:17 Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote: > Hi All, > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - OneTable. > > OneTable[1] is an

[DISCUSS] OneTable proposal

2023-12-04 Thread Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
Hi All, I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - OneTable. OneTable[1] is an omni-directional converter for table formats that facilitates interoperability across data processing systems and query engines. Currently, OneTable supports widely adopted open-source table formats