Ronnie: Tuesday afternoon FB feeds showed me RA had published a YouTube video titled same as this thread topic. As a HUGE Drexciya fan, I saved the link to check when I got home from work. Didn't check the torrent of emails and messages and notifications that turned out to be related. Tuesday night I finally had a chance to check it. Tired from OT at work, my ears still pricked up when I heard my own voice. In a Drexciya feature in 2018. HUH? I listened again and clued in that my 2001 interview formed the majority of the James Stinson spoken word heard. Liz Copeland's 2002 interview also used. I was in shock as no credits. None. And I was already no fan of RA and other sites like that. I conferred with friends involved in journalism such as Kent (and Terry at 5 Mag in Chicago) to make sure I wasn't being a jack-arse being upset about this. Cut to 48 hours later and I am so darn exhausted. I don't think Liz Copeland aware, so envy the sleep she didn't miss out on. RA has continued to be an arse. Like Fact a year ago, they have not gotten back to me. I know they never will. And if there hadn't been an uproar, certain the credits would never have been added. The Oct 11 feature about Resident Advisor and the site history itself rings so much clearer in light of all this Oct 16 Drexciya "collage" nonsense posted on RA. 313 is about Detroit. RA will talk about Detroit if that helps re advertising $, of course. At least all this has caused more to hear the voice of James Stinson. That and Drexciya music are what matter most in all this debacle. Back to work for me. Andrew
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018, 1:56 PM Ronny Pries (rktic), <ronnypr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do I understand correctly that RA used your interview without clearance, > Andrew? > > Am 18.10.2018 um 18:25 schrieb denisedalph...@gmail.com: > > We should hear the voice of a Black Detroiter narrating about Detroit > music. How often does that happen. That doesn’t communicate that the music > is only for people of color. White people are never excluded from anything. > And in 2018, unintentional? Please. > > Luis Manuel Garcia writes amazing pieces about intersectionality in club > culture for RA. They have the information, they’re just choosing to be old > grampas about it. > > On Oct 18, 2018, at 11:56, Steven Robertson <stev...@k-os.net> wrote: > > As a white person who grew up in Scotland, listening to Public Enemy, and > Paris, and reading the biography of Malcolm X, I don't exactly feel > comfortable making comment here. I think here there's clearly a lack of > sensitivity. It is likely to be unintentional, and in the case of the > unattributed source, they have at least corrected this soon after the issue > was raised publicly in the past few days. > > I appreciate that race and racism have a lot to do with the Drexciya story > and UR. However, I do feel that the assertion here that it is _all_ about > race and racism, should be challenged. There is a cultural context which is > certainly important to remember. It's worth remembering too those that were > lost in such terrible conditions on their way to America. I would argue > that the music is not all about race and racism. The music has a soul and > that soul is humanist, not racist. It's not racist towards white people > from Europe. Drexciya stands against slavery. We are all human beings. We > are each responsible to our own behaviour, and our shared futures. The > music transcends race and racism. We fight the power, and the slavers > wherever they may be. Drawing a line in the sand and saying that you don't > belong here is not quite what I think is intended by the music either. We > are all belong to the sea in some way. It's the strongest idea about it I > feel. > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Duke wrote: > > Sigh. I am absolutely disgusted by RA's handling of this at time of > publishing and since. Denise makes great points. Liz Copeland's interview > with James Stinson is also used. I am tired and cranky and thus this post > ain't eloquent. Someone just sent me this link (below) re RA that was > published Oct 11, just a few days before the original--uncredited--Drexciya > feature. The linked feature on RA is especially relevant re the mess they > made this week and how the concerns of Denise and others were ignored and > 313-moderator Kent's concerns "downvoted": > https://telegra.ph/Precedent-Advisor-10-11 > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018, 11:12 AM Denise Dalphond, <denisedalph...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I told RA what I thought. They ignored me. That's what usually happens. > > > *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* > *ethnomusicologist* > *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work/>* > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:11 AM Callum MacGregor < > callum.macgre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What about redubbing the audio with you narrating? Make a corrected > version.... > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, 16:06 Denise Dalphond, <denisedalph...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I love Drexciya. And it's really cool to be able to hear from James > Stinson still in 2018, thanks to Andrew Duke. And it's pretty amazing that > Andrew Duke did that interview. It's a priceless artifact. I could go on! > > Resident Advisor didn't credit Andrew Duke when they first posted the > video, and why is there a white woman's british voice narrating? It's off > putting. They're using the voice of the colonizer to tell the story of > brilliant, musical escape from enslavement and forced labor. Escape from > the colonizer. > > Oh here goes Denise, making everything about race. But this actually all > the way super duper is all about race and racism. > > And how much electronic music culture coverage is based in europe, the > birthplace of imperialism and colonialism? A lot. > > Music fans and writers should be more concerned about preserving and > protecting and respecting the culture that made this music. > > Why didn't they ask Cornelius Harris to narrate? Why didn't they ask John > Collins to narrate? That would be meaningful to artists and fans alike. > > > > Denise > > > > *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* > *ethnomusicologist* > *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work/>* > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM Jeff Davis <j...@jeffreyjdavis.com> wrote: > > Pretty sure most of you saw this already but I thought this short > video did a good job encapsulating and contextualizing the concepts > behind Drexciya. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgG-QiChiA8 > > includes a snippet from an Andrew Duke interview as well!! > > > thanks, > > Jeffrey J Davis > > j...@jeffreyjdavis.com > > www.jeffreyjdavis.com > > 218.833.2847 > > > >
