Don't blame Denise. I overreacted to something that really had nothing to
do with me.

Again, I apologize to everyone on the list for blowing it way out of
proportion.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 7:35 PM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Congrats Denise!
>
> You singlehandedly ruined this whole fucking group with your arrogant and
> abrasive bullshit.
>
> All that education and you truly SUCK at communicating.  Miserable
> pathetic person.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 7:12 PM Robert Suárez <rob3rt.sua...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> S A M E !
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 7:09 PM Monica Lesher <lesher.mon...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> SAMEEEE
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 22:08 Lerato Khathi <
>>> booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> somebdy pls help me unsubscribe from this group .
>>>> i'd forgotten how to do it .
>>>> pls need to get out of here asap .
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 10:47, Mister Jones <misterjones...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I know what gaslighting is and that's clearly not what's going on
>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll quit with this whole topic. I saw what was written and it set me
>>>>> off. My apologies to you, Denise, for responding the way I did and to the
>>>>> list for even engaging in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Been listening to a bunch of Boiler Room sets lately. Kenny Larkin,
>>>>> Octave One, and the like.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 3:30 PM Denise Dalphond <
>>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ever heard of gaslighting? You’re free to join the #MeToo movement. I
>>>>>> don’t care about yr background. And I don’t care about yr feelings. I 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> techno music, though. A lot. I heard a techno song on Ann Arbor radio 
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> the other day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Denise
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:24 PM Mister Jones <
>>>>>> misterjones...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True, you did say that, but you said much more and it's the rest of
>>>>>>> what you wrote that I take issue with. Men and boys would likely talk 
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> if we received the same encouragement and support women did, but we
>>>>>>> don't... At all. We're made fun of when we speak on what's happened. Our
>>>>>>> harassment claims are never taken seriously when it's a woman we're
>>>>>>> complaining about. A man filing a report against a female rapist is 
>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>> to be laughed out of the station (this isn't speculation, it's 
>>>>>>> documented
>>>>>>> to have happened). So we keep it to ourselves and tough it out because,
>>>>>>> like male victims of domestic abuse, there's zero support for us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it really brave when you have the support of a whole community
>>>>>>> standing behind you to come forward? Or is it brave when you stand up 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> do it completely alone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 2:52 PM Denise Dalphond <
>>>>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I said most children have been molested by at least one family
>>>>>>>> member. Gender neutral. I’m well aware that females molest and abuse
>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Men should talk about it more. But it’s scary. Which leads me to
>>>>>>>> remember how brave women are. Because we talk about that stuff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 3:15 PM Mister Jones <
>>>>>>>> misterjones...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So... I've been in therapy since mid-August dealing with a range
>>>>>>>>> of issues and at their core was the fact that I had been molested as a
>>>>>>>>> child, not by a family member, not by the Catholic priest I served 
>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>> for three years as an altar boy, but by two older girls, one female 
>>>>>>>>> and one
>>>>>>>>> male classmate, and as a teenager sexually accosted by grown women in 
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> neighborhood in Detroit. This shit reared it's head this late in life 
>>>>>>>>> (I'm
>>>>>>>>> just a few years short of 50) bringing nothing but chaos. It has 
>>>>>>>>> destroyed
>>>>>>>>> my marriage, wrecked my relationship with my kids, got me in trouble 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the law, and brought me to the absolute brink. It's so bad that I'll 
>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>> have to pack up my things and moving back to Michigan without my kids,
>>>>>>>>> where I'll end up living with my mother and stepfather... At this age.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Denise, this is nothing against you... I've been on this list in
>>>>>>>>> one form or another for over 20 years and always have thought highly 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> you... But these days every time I see a woman talking about rape 
>>>>>>>>> this and
>>>>>>>>> that, as if it's just a female-centric issue, I'm reminded that guys 
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> myself are told to suck it up and shut up... and I get royally pissed.
>>>>>>>>> Women in general and society at large is pretty dismissive when it's 
>>>>>>>>> a male
>>>>>>>>> victim of a female but "OMG!!! The horror!!! Something must be done! 
>>>>>>>>> Teach
>>>>>>>>> boys not to rape!!!" when it's a female victim of a male. We're told 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> we should be happy that such things have happened to us when a girl or
>>>>>>>>> grown woman comes at us like that and that if it's a boy your age, 
>>>>>>>>> well...
>>>>>>>>> "you should have just kicked his ass". I've had to sit in silence for
>>>>>>>>> decades, telling no one about it until it basically destroyed my 
>>>>>>>>> life. My
>>>>>>>>> mother was devastated when I finally told her, my sisters were in 
>>>>>>>>> shock
>>>>>>>>> especially since one of the older girls was from a family extremely 
>>>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>>>> to us (their mother is godmother to two of my younger sisters), my 
>>>>>>>>> wife was
>>>>>>>>> pissed because I never told her and she had often said I occasionally 
>>>>>>>>> acted
>>>>>>>>> like someone that had been molested; something I always denied. 
>>>>>>>>> Everyone
>>>>>>>>> asked "why didn't you ever say something?" not realizing that when 
>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>> only 7 years old you really don't know how to process something like 
>>>>>>>>> this,
>>>>>>>>> and in a society back then in the late 70's where this kind of stuff 
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> viewed as "coming of age" or "just a part of growing up" what was I 
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> supposed to say?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Denise, to answer your question I'll ask another: What happens
>>>>>>>>> when you're a woman and sexually assault or harass a boy or a man?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll answer it for you: Usually nothing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The world continues to turn. Maybe it makes the news if you're a
>>>>>>>>> celebrity, law maker, or some other type of high profile person but 
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> don't worry; it blows over within a few days because nobody cares. 
>>>>>>>>> You'll
>>>>>>>>> continue to get attached to movies as a director and actor (just don't
>>>>>>>>> forget to send your victim his hush money first). You'll probably 
>>>>>>>>> keep your
>>>>>>>>> seat in congress or your position as CEO but even if you do step down
>>>>>>>>> nobody looks upon you as a lecherous sexual deviant; somehow you're 
>>>>>>>>> viewed
>>>>>>>>> as the victim. If you're a well known professor you might get 
>>>>>>>>> suspended but
>>>>>>>>> you go back to work when it blows over. If you're one of the few that 
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> get arrested, you get a slap on the wrist and very rarely ever have to
>>>>>>>>> register as a sex offender.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While I get where the sarcasm comes from, Denise, I just want you
>>>>>>>>> to understand that there are victims of this kind of thing that aren't
>>>>>>>>> female and perps that are female. Guys like me... we're out here, we 
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> rarely ever talk about it. Typically we're too busy sucking it up to
>>>>>>>>> complain.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry about the rant y'all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:03 AM Denise Dalphond <
>>>>>>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What happens when you sexually assault women? You get to be the
>>>>>>>>>> US President. Or you get to stay being R Kelly makin all that money. 
>>>>>>>>>> It’s
>>>>>>>>>> very common. As a school teacher, it seems that most children in the 
>>>>>>>>>> US are
>>>>>>>>>> being molested and abused by at least one family member. That’s what 
>>>>>>>>>> I see.
>>>>>>>>>> So it’s a part of our human fabric and almost no one cares. You’re 
>>>>>>>>>> all high
>>>>>>>>>> fiving each other every time you hear a new story of a woman gettin 
>>>>>>>>>> hurt.
>>>>>>>>>> So sorry for growing you. What were we thinking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I like Derrick May’s haircut right now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 4:57 AM Andrew Duke <
>>>>>>>>>> andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [Posted by Michael James on FB last night]: If you are a victim
>>>>>>>>>>> of rape or sexual assault at the hands of Derrick May anywhere in 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> world, please call Tresa Baldas at The Detroit Free Press at
>>>>>>>>>>> 1-313-378-7070. She needs to hear your story. Even if you wish to 
>>>>>>>>>>> remain
>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous, she needs to hear from you. All who have reached out to 
>>>>>>>>>>> me, here
>>>>>>>>>>> is a chance to stop this from happening to future victims.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Derrick May must be unveiled independent of my actions so that
>>>>>>>>>>> there can be no doubt as to the veracity of these claims I have made
>>>>>>>>>>> against him. Please do your part. She is a member of the mainstream 
>>>>>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>>>>>> and she will protect your privacy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - MJ
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>>>>>>>>> ethnomusicologist
>>>>>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>>>>>>> ethnomusicologist
>>>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>>>>> ethnomusicologist
>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Lerato Khathi
>>>> http://uzurirecordings.com
>>>> http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
>>>> http://soundcloud.com/uzuri
>>>> Skype : Lakuti
>>>>
>>>

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