SAMEEEE On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 22:08 Lerato Khathi < [email protected]> wrote:
> somebdy pls help me unsubscribe from this group . > i'd forgotten how to do it . > pls need to get out of here asap . > > On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 10:47, Mister Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Yes, I know what gaslighting is and that's clearly not what's going on >> here. >> >> I'll quit with this whole topic. I saw what was written and it set me >> off. My apologies to you, Denise, for responding the way I did and to the >> list for even engaging in it. >> >> Been listening to a bunch of Boiler Room sets lately. Kenny Larkin, >> Octave One, and the like. >> >> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 3:30 PM Denise Dalphond <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Ever heard of gaslighting? You’re free to join the #MeToo movement. I >>> don’t care about yr background. And I don’t care about yr feelings. I like >>> techno music, though. A lot. I heard a techno song on Ann Arbor radio just >>> the other day. >>> >>> Denise >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:24 PM Mister Jones <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> True, you did say that, but you said much more and it's the rest of >>>> what you wrote that I take issue with. Men and boys would likely talk more >>>> if we received the same encouragement and support women did, but we >>>> don't... At all. We're made fun of when we speak on what's happened. Our >>>> harassment claims are never taken seriously when it's a woman we're >>>> complaining about. A man filing a report against a female rapist is likely >>>> to be laughed out of the station (this isn't speculation, it's documented >>>> to have happened). So we keep it to ourselves and tough it out because, >>>> like male victims of domestic abuse, there's zero support for us. >>>> >>>> Is it really brave when you have the support of a whole community >>>> standing behind you to come forward? Or is it brave when you stand up and >>>> do it completely alone? >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 2:52 PM Denise Dalphond < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I said most children have been molested by at least one family member. >>>>> Gender neutral. I’m well aware that females molest and abuse people. >>>>> >>>>> Men should talk about it more. But it’s scary. Which leads me to >>>>> remember how brave women are. Because we talk about that stuff. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 3:15 PM Mister Jones <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So... I've been in therapy since mid-August dealing with a range of >>>>>> issues and at their core was the fact that I had been molested as a >>>>>> child, >>>>>> not by a family member, not by the Catholic priest I served under for >>>>>> three >>>>>> years as an altar boy, but by two older girls, one female and one male >>>>>> classmate, and as a teenager sexually accosted by grown women in my >>>>>> neighborhood in Detroit. This shit reared it's head this late in life >>>>>> (I'm >>>>>> just a few years short of 50) bringing nothing but chaos. It has >>>>>> destroyed >>>>>> my marriage, wrecked my relationship with my kids, got me in trouble with >>>>>> the law, and brought me to the absolute brink. It's so bad that I'll >>>>>> likely >>>>>> have to pack up my things and moving back to Michigan without my kids, >>>>>> where I'll end up living with my mother and stepfather... At this age. >>>>>> >>>>>> Denise, this is nothing against you... I've been on this list in one >>>>>> form or another for over 20 years and always have thought highly of >>>>>> you... >>>>>> But these days every time I see a woman talking about rape this and that, >>>>>> as if it's just a female-centric issue, I'm reminded that guys like >>>>>> myself >>>>>> are told to suck it up and shut up... and I get royally pissed. Women in >>>>>> general and society at large is pretty dismissive when it's a male victim >>>>>> of a female but "OMG!!! The horror!!! Something must be done! Teach boys >>>>>> not to rape!!!" when it's a female victim of a male. We're told that we >>>>>> should be happy that such things have happened to us when a girl or grown >>>>>> woman comes at us like that and that if it's a boy your age, well... "you >>>>>> should have just kicked his ass". I've had to sit in silence for decades, >>>>>> telling no one about it until it basically destroyed my life. My mother >>>>>> was >>>>>> devastated when I finally told her, my sisters were in shock especially >>>>>> since one of the older girls was from a family extremely close to us >>>>>> (their >>>>>> mother is godmother to two of my younger sisters), my wife was pissed >>>>>> because I never told her and she had often said I occasionally acted like >>>>>> someone that had been molested; something I always denied. Everyone asked >>>>>> "why didn't you ever say something?" not realizing that when you're only >>>>>> 7 >>>>>> years old you really don't know how to process something like this, and >>>>>> in >>>>>> a society back then in the late 70's where this kind of stuff was viewed >>>>>> as >>>>>> "coming of age" or "just a part of growing up" what was I really supposed >>>>>> to say? >>>>>> >>>>>> Denise, to answer your question I'll ask another: What happens when >>>>>> you're a woman and sexually assault or harass a boy or a man? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll answer it for you: Usually nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> The world continues to turn. Maybe it makes the news if you're a >>>>>> celebrity, law maker, or some other type of high profile person but you >>>>>> don't worry; it blows over within a few days because nobody cares. You'll >>>>>> continue to get attached to movies as a director and actor (just don't >>>>>> forget to send your victim his hush money first). You'll probably keep >>>>>> your >>>>>> seat in congress or your position as CEO but even if you do step down >>>>>> nobody looks upon you as a lecherous sexual deviant; somehow you're >>>>>> viewed >>>>>> as the victim. If you're a well known professor you might get suspended >>>>>> but >>>>>> you go back to work when it blows over. If you're one of the few that do >>>>>> get arrested, you get a slap on the wrist and very rarely ever have to >>>>>> register as a sex offender. >>>>>> >>>>>> While I get where the sarcasm comes from, Denise, I just want you to >>>>>> understand that there are victims of this kind of thing that aren't >>>>>> female >>>>>> and perps that are female. Guys like me... we're out here, we just rarely >>>>>> ever talk about it. Typically we're too busy sucking it up to complain. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry about the rant y'all. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:03 AM Denise Dalphond < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What happens when you sexually assault women? You get to be the US >>>>>>> President. Or you get to stay being R Kelly makin all that money. It’s >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> common. As a school teacher, it seems that most children in the US are >>>>>>> being molested and abused by at least one family member. That’s what I >>>>>>> see. >>>>>>> So it’s a part of our human fabric and almost no one cares. You’re all >>>>>>> high >>>>>>> fiving each other every time you hear a new story of a woman gettin >>>>>>> hurt. >>>>>>> So sorry for growing you. What were we thinking. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like Derrick May’s haircut right now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 4:57 AM Andrew Duke < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [Posted by Michael James on FB last night]: If you are a victim of >>>>>>>> rape or sexual assault at the hands of Derrick May anywhere in the >>>>>>>> world, >>>>>>>> please call Tresa Baldas at The Detroit Free Press at 1-313-378-7070. >>>>>>>> She >>>>>>>> needs to hear your story. Even if you wish to remain anonymous, she >>>>>>>> needs >>>>>>>> to hear from you. All who have reached out to me, here is a chance to >>>>>>>> stop >>>>>>>> this from happening to future victims. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Derrick May must be unveiled independent of my actions so that >>>>>>>> there can be no doubt as to the veracity of these claims I have made >>>>>>>> against him. Please do your part. She is a member of the mainstream >>>>>>>> media >>>>>>>> and she will protect your privacy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - MJ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>> >>>> -- >>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>> ethnomusicologist >>> schoolcraftwax.work >>> >> > > -- > > Lerato Khathi > http://uzurirecordings.com > http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com > http://soundcloud.com/uzuri > Skype : Lakuti >
