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On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 7:09 PM Monica Lesher <lesher.mon...@gmail.com> wrote: > SAMEEEE > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 22:08 Lerato Khathi < > booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com> wrote: > >> somebdy pls help me unsubscribe from this group . >> i'd forgotten how to do it . >> pls need to get out of here asap . >> >> On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 10:47, Mister Jones <misterjones...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, I know what gaslighting is and that's clearly not what's going on >>> here. >>> >>> I'll quit with this whole topic. I saw what was written and it set me >>> off. My apologies to you, Denise, for responding the way I did and to the >>> list for even engaging in it. >>> >>> Been listening to a bunch of Boiler Room sets lately. Kenny Larkin, >>> Octave One, and the like. >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 3:30 PM Denise Dalphond < >>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ever heard of gaslighting? You’re free to join the #MeToo movement. I >>>> don’t care about yr background. And I don’t care about yr feelings. I like >>>> techno music, though. A lot. I heard a techno song on Ann Arbor radio just >>>> the other day. >>>> >>>> Denise >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:24 PM Mister Jones <misterjones...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> True, you did say that, but you said much more and it's the rest of >>>>> what you wrote that I take issue with. Men and boys would likely talk more >>>>> if we received the same encouragement and support women did, but we >>>>> don't... At all. We're made fun of when we speak on what's happened. Our >>>>> harassment claims are never taken seriously when it's a woman we're >>>>> complaining about. A man filing a report against a female rapist is likely >>>>> to be laughed out of the station (this isn't speculation, it's documented >>>>> to have happened). So we keep it to ourselves and tough it out because, >>>>> like male victims of domestic abuse, there's zero support for us. >>>>> >>>>> Is it really brave when you have the support of a whole community >>>>> standing behind you to come forward? Or is it brave when you stand up and >>>>> do it completely alone? >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 2:52 PM Denise Dalphond < >>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I said most children have been molested by at least one family >>>>>> member. Gender neutral. I’m well aware that females molest and abuse >>>>>> people. >>>>>> >>>>>> Men should talk about it more. But it’s scary. Which leads me to >>>>>> remember how brave women are. Because we talk about that stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 3:15 PM Mister Jones < >>>>>> misterjones...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So... I've been in therapy since mid-August dealing with a range of >>>>>>> issues and at their core was the fact that I had been molested as a >>>>>>> child, >>>>>>> not by a family member, not by the Catholic priest I served under for >>>>>>> three >>>>>>> years as an altar boy, but by two older girls, one female and one male >>>>>>> classmate, and as a teenager sexually accosted by grown women in my >>>>>>> neighborhood in Detroit. This shit reared it's head this late in life >>>>>>> (I'm >>>>>>> just a few years short of 50) bringing nothing but chaos. It has >>>>>>> destroyed >>>>>>> my marriage, wrecked my relationship with my kids, got me in trouble >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the law, and brought me to the absolute brink. It's so bad that I'll >>>>>>> likely >>>>>>> have to pack up my things and moving back to Michigan without my kids, >>>>>>> where I'll end up living with my mother and stepfather... At this age. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Denise, this is nothing against you... I've been on this list in one >>>>>>> form or another for over 20 years and always have thought highly of >>>>>>> you... >>>>>>> But these days every time I see a woman talking about rape this and >>>>>>> that, >>>>>>> as if it's just a female-centric issue, I'm reminded that guys like >>>>>>> myself >>>>>>> are told to suck it up and shut up... and I get royally pissed. Women in >>>>>>> general and society at large is pretty dismissive when it's a male >>>>>>> victim >>>>>>> of a female but "OMG!!! The horror!!! Something must be done! Teach boys >>>>>>> not to rape!!!" when it's a female victim of a male. We're told that we >>>>>>> should be happy that such things have happened to us when a girl or >>>>>>> grown >>>>>>> woman comes at us like that and that if it's a boy your age, well... >>>>>>> "you >>>>>>> should have just kicked his ass". I've had to sit in silence for >>>>>>> decades, >>>>>>> telling no one about it until it basically destroyed my life. My mother >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> devastated when I finally told her, my sisters were in shock especially >>>>>>> since one of the older girls was from a family extremely close to us >>>>>>> (their >>>>>>> mother is godmother to two of my younger sisters), my wife was pissed >>>>>>> because I never told her and she had often said I occasionally acted >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> someone that had been molested; something I always denied. Everyone >>>>>>> asked >>>>>>> "why didn't you ever say something?" not realizing that when you're >>>>>>> only 7 >>>>>>> years old you really don't know how to process something like this, and >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> a society back then in the late 70's where this kind of stuff was >>>>>>> viewed as >>>>>>> "coming of age" or "just a part of growing up" what was I really >>>>>>> supposed >>>>>>> to say? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Denise, to answer your question I'll ask another: What happens when >>>>>>> you're a woman and sexually assault or harass a boy or a man? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll answer it for you: Usually nothing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The world continues to turn. Maybe it makes the news if you're a >>>>>>> celebrity, law maker, or some other type of high profile person but you >>>>>>> don't worry; it blows over within a few days because nobody cares. >>>>>>> You'll >>>>>>> continue to get attached to movies as a director and actor (just don't >>>>>>> forget to send your victim his hush money first). You'll probably keep >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> seat in congress or your position as CEO but even if you do step down >>>>>>> nobody looks upon you as a lecherous sexual deviant; somehow you're >>>>>>> viewed >>>>>>> as the victim. If you're a well known professor you might get suspended >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> you go back to work when it blows over. If you're one of the few that do >>>>>>> get arrested, you get a slap on the wrist and very rarely ever have to >>>>>>> register as a sex offender. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While I get where the sarcasm comes from, Denise, I just want you to >>>>>>> understand that there are victims of this kind of thing that aren't >>>>>>> female >>>>>>> and perps that are female. Guys like me... we're out here, we just >>>>>>> rarely >>>>>>> ever talk about it. Typically we're too busy sucking it up to complain. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry about the rant y'all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:03 AM Denise Dalphond < >>>>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What happens when you sexually assault women? You get to be the US >>>>>>>> President. Or you get to stay being R Kelly makin all that money. It’s >>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>> common. As a school teacher, it seems that most children in the US are >>>>>>>> being molested and abused by at least one family member. That’s what I >>>>>>>> see. >>>>>>>> So it’s a part of our human fabric and almost no one cares. You’re all >>>>>>>> high >>>>>>>> fiving each other every time you hear a new story of a woman gettin >>>>>>>> hurt. >>>>>>>> So sorry for growing you. What were we thinking. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I like Derrick May’s haircut right now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 4:57 AM Andrew Duke < >>>>>>>> andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [Posted by Michael James on FB last night]: If you are a victim of >>>>>>>>> rape or sexual assault at the hands of Derrick May anywhere in the >>>>>>>>> world, >>>>>>>>> please call Tresa Baldas at The Detroit Free Press at 1-313-378-7070. >>>>>>>>> She >>>>>>>>> needs to hear your story. Even if you wish to remain anonymous, she >>>>>>>>> needs >>>>>>>>> to hear from you. All who have reached out to me, here is a chance to >>>>>>>>> stop >>>>>>>>> this from happening to future victims. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Derrick May must be unveiled independent of my actions so that >>>>>>>>> there can be no doubt as to the veracity of these claims I have made >>>>>>>>> against him. Please do your part. She is a member of the mainstream >>>>>>>>> media >>>>>>>>> and she will protect your privacy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - MJ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>> ethnomusicologist >>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> Lerato Khathi >> http://uzurirecordings.com >> http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com >> http://soundcloud.com/uzuri >> Skype : Lakuti >> >
