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On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 10:47, Mister Jones <misterjones...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I know what gaslighting is and that's clearly not what's going on
> here.
>
> I'll quit with this whole topic. I saw what was written and it set me off.
> My apologies to you, Denise, for responding the way I did and to the list
> for even engaging in it.
>
> Been listening to a bunch of Boiler Room sets lately. Kenny Larkin, Octave
> One, and the like.
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 3:30 PM Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ever heard of gaslighting? You’re free to join the #MeToo movement. I
>> don’t care about yr background. And I don’t care about yr feelings. I like
>> techno music, though. A lot. I heard a techno song on Ann Arbor radio just
>> the other day.
>>
>> Denise
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:24 PM Mister Jones <misterjones...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> True, you did say that, but you said much more and it's the rest of what
>>> you wrote that I take issue with. Men and boys would likely talk more if we
>>> received the same encouragement and support women did, but we don't... At
>>> all. We're made fun of when we speak on what's happened. Our harassment
>>> claims are never taken seriously when it's a woman we're complaining about.
>>> A man filing a report against a female rapist is likely to be laughed out
>>> of the station (this isn't speculation, it's documented to have happened).
>>> So we keep it to ourselves and tough it out because, like male victims of
>>> domestic abuse, there's zero support for us.
>>>
>>> Is it really brave when you have the support of a whole community
>>> standing behind you to come forward? Or is it brave when you stand up and
>>> do it completely alone?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 2:52 PM Denise Dalphond <
>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I said most children have been molested by at least one family member.
>>>> Gender neutral. I’m well aware that females molest and abuse people.
>>>>
>>>> Men should talk about it more. But it’s scary. Which leads me to
>>>> remember how brave women are. Because we talk about that stuff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 3:15 PM Mister Jones <misterjones...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So... I've been in therapy since mid-August dealing with a range of
>>>>> issues and at their core was the fact that I had been molested as a child,
>>>>> not by a family member, not by the Catholic priest I served under for 
>>>>> three
>>>>> years as an altar boy, but by two older girls, one female and one male
>>>>> classmate, and as a teenager sexually accosted by grown women in my
>>>>> neighborhood in Detroit. This shit reared it's head this late in life (I'm
>>>>> just a few years short of 50) bringing nothing but chaos. It has destroyed
>>>>> my marriage, wrecked my relationship with my kids, got me in trouble with
>>>>> the law, and brought me to the absolute brink. It's so bad that I'll 
>>>>> likely
>>>>> have to pack up my things and moving back to Michigan without my kids,
>>>>> where I'll end up living with my mother and stepfather... At this age.
>>>>>
>>>>> Denise, this is nothing against you... I've been on this list in one
>>>>> form or another for over 20 years and always have thought highly of you...
>>>>> But these days every time I see a woman talking about rape this and that,
>>>>> as if it's just a female-centric issue, I'm reminded that guys like myself
>>>>> are told to suck it up and shut up... and I get royally pissed. Women in
>>>>> general and society at large is pretty dismissive when it's a male victim
>>>>> of a female but "OMG!!! The horror!!! Something must be done! Teach boys
>>>>> not to rape!!!" when it's a female victim of a male. We're told that we
>>>>> should be happy that such things have happened to us when a girl or grown
>>>>> woman comes at us like that and that if it's a boy your age, well... "you
>>>>> should have just kicked his ass". I've had to sit in silence for decades,
>>>>> telling no one about it until it basically destroyed my life. My mother 
>>>>> was
>>>>> devastated when I finally told her, my sisters were in shock especially
>>>>> since one of the older girls was from a family extremely close to us 
>>>>> (their
>>>>> mother is godmother to two of my younger sisters), my wife was pissed
>>>>> because I never told her and she had often said I occasionally acted like
>>>>> someone that had been molested; something I always denied. Everyone asked
>>>>> "why didn't you ever say something?" not realizing that when you're only 7
>>>>> years old you really don't know how to process something like this, and in
>>>>> a society back then in the late 70's where this kind of stuff was viewed 
>>>>> as
>>>>> "coming of age" or "just a part of growing up" what was I really supposed
>>>>> to say?
>>>>>
>>>>> Denise, to answer your question I'll ask another: What happens when
>>>>> you're a woman and sexually assault or harass a boy or a man?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll answer it for you: Usually nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> The world continues to turn. Maybe it makes the news if you're a
>>>>> celebrity, law maker, or some other type of high profile person but you
>>>>> don't worry; it blows over within a few days because nobody cares. You'll
>>>>> continue to get attached to movies as a director and actor (just don't
>>>>> forget to send your victim his hush money first). You'll probably keep 
>>>>> your
>>>>> seat in congress or your position as CEO but even if you do step down
>>>>> nobody looks upon you as a lecherous sexual deviant; somehow you're viewed
>>>>> as the victim. If you're a well known professor you might get suspended 
>>>>> but
>>>>> you go back to work when it blows over. If you're one of the few that do
>>>>> get arrested, you get a slap on the wrist and very rarely ever have to
>>>>> register as a sex offender.
>>>>>
>>>>> While I get where the sarcasm comes from, Denise, I just want you to
>>>>> understand that there are victims of this kind of thing that aren't female
>>>>> and perps that are female. Guys like me... we're out here, we just rarely
>>>>> ever talk about it. Typically we're too busy sucking it up to complain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry about the rant y'all.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:03 AM Denise Dalphond <
>>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What happens when you sexually assault women? You get to be the US
>>>>>> President. Or you get to stay being R Kelly makin all that money. It’s 
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> common. As a school teacher, it seems that most children in the US are
>>>>>> being molested and abused by at least one family member. That’s what I 
>>>>>> see.
>>>>>> So it’s a part of our human fabric and almost no one cares. You’re all 
>>>>>> high
>>>>>> fiving each other every time you hear a new story of a woman gettin hurt.
>>>>>> So sorry for growing you. What were we thinking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like Derrick May’s haircut right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 4:57 AM Andrew Duke <
>>>>>> andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [Posted by Michael James on FB last night]: If you are a victim of
>>>>>>> rape or sexual assault at the hands of Derrick May anywhere in the 
>>>>>>> world,
>>>>>>> please call Tresa Baldas at The Detroit Free Press at 1-313-378-7070. 
>>>>>>> She
>>>>>>> needs to hear your story. Even if you wish to remain anonymous, she 
>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>> to hear from you. All who have reached out to me, here is a chance to 
>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>> this from happening to future victims.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Derrick May must be unveiled independent of my actions so that there
>>>>>>> can be no doubt as to the veracity of these claims I have made against 
>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>> Please do your part. She is a member of the mainstream media and she 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> protect your privacy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - MJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>>>>> ethnomusicologist
>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>>> ethnomusicologist
>>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>>
>>> --
>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>> ethnomusicologist
>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>
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