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On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 7:59 PM DJ Shiva <djsh...@gmail.com> wrote: > "She could have been any of the 100+ genders she probably believes in and > it wouldn’t matter. " > > Mmmmhmmmm, sure Jan. You tell me everything I need to know about your > attitude toward gender right there. > > For the love of my sanity will someone unsubscribe me from this list? > > Lisa > http://www.noncompliantmusic.com > http://www.soundcloud.com/noncompliant1 > -------------------------------------------------------- > "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I > can hear her breathing." - Arundhati Roy > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:58 PM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Appreciate the reply Jodie, >> >> I’m gonna go out on what I feel is not too far of a limb by saying you’re >> probably the only one here that sees her “apologies” as not being >> backhanded. >> >> Please don’t deflect by trying to bring in women’s voices etc because >> that’s not the point we are discussing. She could have been any of the >> 100+ genders she probably believes in and it wouldn’t matter. >> >> If you can’t see that most here are doing their best to “tolerate” her >> then I don’t now what to tell you. >> >> We shouldn’t have to barely tolerate anyone here. Especially if they are >> not at least warned to change their tone. >> >> Speaking of Rick, spoke to him today about a conversation around a 3 >> chairs party here in SF. >> >> Has everyone here bought my new release yet?? >> :-) >> >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:42 AM U&I Design <uandidesigndetr...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I havent chimed in yet, but seeing Joe's email has prompted me to. >>> >>> "We tried to respond respectfully at first..." Sorry, but I didn't see >>> in the emails to Denise that there was much respect being given, not at the >>> start or throughout. >>> >>> She did apologize for how she reacted and people have continued to go >>> after her. As for the comment that "if she was a guy she would've been >>> removed long ago" I have to disagree. I love Tom Cox and I loved the >>> heated debates he used to get in. Him and I had a few as well. I never got >>> so touchy that I thought he should be removed from the list. Those threads >>> and debates back then pushed the envelope much farther than any of the >>> emails I saw by her did. And in reality, there have been more emails >>> discussing this than there were that caused this discussion to begin. >>> >>> Her contribution to the music is undeniable and rather than just write >>> her off as being hostile, maybe everyone should take stock as to why and >>> what pushed her to become hostile in the first place. >>> >>> Removing someone that has contributed as much to the musuc as she has >>> would be a shame. >>> >>> Just my 2 cents. And Joe, I'm pretty sure Marcellus and Rick would >>> agree with me on this one. They love the voices of strong opinionated >>> women in the scene as much as I do. >>> >>> *Jodie >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 15:41 Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So I guess there’s the “two wrongs don’t make a right” argument vs “we >>>> tried to reply respectfully at first but she keeps replying with hostility >>>> while trying to justify her tone” >>>> >>>> What I replied earlier that wasn’t copied here in the group was asking >>>> why Kent would risk losing many for the sake of accommodating one. Makes >>>> no sense whatsoever. There are unwritten rules of conduct in each scenario >>>> which she’s clearly in violation of. >>>> >>>> Lastly I feel that if she was a dude she’d have been 86’d by now (or at >>>> least on a last warning regarding her tone). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> attention: >>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://undergroundandblack.com/ >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> And it's clear there's a lot of emotional upset and personal >>>>> issues >>>>> >>>>>>>>> that have spilled onto the list. I don't want to say that's >>>>> not >>>>> >>>>>>>>> appropriate content, but it should be in the context that >>>>> we're a group of >>>>> >>>>>>>>> friends, widely dispersed geographically, with something in >>>>> common.. So keep >>>>> >>>>>>>>> in mind you're talking to a friend, and they deserve respect >>>>> even if you >>>>> >>>>>>>>> disagree with them. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>> >>>>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>> >>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>> >>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>> >>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Lerato Khathi >>>>> >>>> http://uzurirecordings.com >>>>> >>>> http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com >>>>> >>>> http://soundcloud.com/uzuri >>>>> >>>> Skype : Lakuti >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> -- >>>>> >> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>> >> ethnomusicologist >>>>> >> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >-- >>>>> > >>>>> >Lerato Khathi >>>>> >http://uzurirecordings.com >>>>> >http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com >>>>> >http://soundcloud.com/uzuri >>>>> >Skype : Lakuti >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
