I'm also basically a lurker these days but a list member since 1994. Also had the great fortune to meet Lakuti along with Earl Gateshead and the Flying/Plastic People crew in London 20 years ago -- and saw her play at the Detroit Artist Test Lab during the festival last year. (damn, that was a Throw Down!) She has listings on RA (so many!).
https://www.residentadvisor.net/dj/lakuti/dates?yr=2020 She has been a friend to so many, built so much along the way, opened doors and kept them open. I hope my good friend decides to stay on 313, but either way I honor the decision. So here is what I have to say: this raises core questions about the ongoing purpose of this list. If we can't respect each other, why should any of us continue to subscribe? The 313 list has been a valued and even inspirational resource for me for a quarter century. It has persisted long after most of the other mid-1990s mailing lists have faded away. It has enabled lifetime friendships. Interaction online exposes different viewpoints and that's actually beneficial -- as long as we truly demonstrate respect for each other. Without that, there is no reason to continue. peace fh ----------------- >crikey . classic example of how not to built community . >i am writing to you as a black african queer woman denise who has put a lot >into supporting and nurturing a lot of djs and artists . >and i continue to work hard to support communities within the global music >network young and old often from marginalized communities who do not get a >look in , in the current climate in electronic music but yeah carry on >being tone deaf . >my last word . thanks for everything to everyone else over the yrs . >keep supporting music not egos . >i am out of here . > >On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 18:52, Denise Dalphond <[email protected]> >wrote: > >> Hey guys, I owe you nothing. You donât have to like my communication. >> Iâll >> take up as much space as I need. Most people expect women to be quiet. Iâm >> not. You can read my writing in some published books. Itâs all on my >> website, which is in my signature. Next up is an article on Detroit and >> resistance in the first Oxford Handbook of Electronic Dance Music. Itâs a >> pretty big series. >> >> Iâve never unsubscribed. This is the 313 list, not the IDM list. Itâs >> pretty important. I used to never or rarely talk on this list. Now I speak >> up more. Itâs super patriarchal of everyone to gang up on the woman. Often, >> I get private messages of support from subscribers when I speak up on this >> list. >> >> Iâll email the 313 list any time I have something to contribute. >> >> Denise Dalphond >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:45 PM Joe Marougi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Very well said. Whatâs worse is the lack of remorse. Just empty >>> âadmissions of guiltâ >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:42 AM Lerato Khathi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> i do not know you denise but i have been subscribed to this group for a >>>> long time therefore i feel that i am a bit qualified to make a comment .. >>>> i am a lurker and posted sometimes but only occasionally yrs back . >>>> i do find though that your approach denise can be very confrontational >>>> and can often take up a lot of space . it often feels like the list is >>>> dormant bar the denise show . >>>> i am personally not gaining a lot from the list compared to former >>>> times and will need to unsubscribe shortly because i get no joy from these >>>> occasional outbursts . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 18:20, Denise Dalphond <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, Kent, nobody knows whoâs unsubbing except for you. So maybe itâs >>>>> just your family. >>>>> >>>>> I wish I had money to go clubbing more often in Detroit. I wish I had a >>>>> boyfriend to go clubbing with. But Iâm pretty sure I never been wishin I >>>>> was Black because then you have to suffer racism. >>>>> >>>>> I do love the internet though because I can follow Liquid Sky and other >>>>> NYC 90s rave accounts on Instagram and see pics of clubs I used to go >>>>> raving at in NYC in 1995-1999 when I was going to NYU. Like Twilo, I >>>>> forgot >>>>> about Twilo. And Shelter. And Vinyl. And Roxy. I brought baby powder for >>>>> the floor at the Roxy sometimes in my bright blue Adidas backpack, or my >>>>> Lisa Frank backpack, cause I was a preppy raver. And the nights, like >>>>> Konkrete Jungle. >>>>> >>>>> Too off topic? Too emotional? Iâm so irrational. >>>>> >>>>> Denise Dalphond >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:10 PM kent williams <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The Tom Cox battles were epic, but at the same time, ultimately not >>>>>> that great for the list. Every time there's a big emotional flare-up on >>>>>> 313 people unsubscribe; people I regard as essential members of the >>>>>> family. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm all for people being opinionated, but it would be great if they >>>>>> were more opinionated about music and less about each other. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:05 AM Denise Dalphond < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I miss when Tom Cox was on the list. Maybe thatâs because he never >>>>>>> yelled at me. He was more like a mentor 2 me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can read all about it in the archives. You can read messages from >>>>>>> Dan Sicko, too. In the 313 list archives. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Denise, the woman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:56 AM Joe Marougi <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thatâs fine but why canât folks tell âcertain peopleâ to chill >>>>>>>> the f >>>>>>>> out? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is it because sheâs a woman, hates being white or wishes she was >>>>>>>> black? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:48 AM kent williams < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I generally just let the 313 list be. Frankly it's been moribund >>>>>>>>> lately and probably has more subscribers outside of Detroit than >>>>>>>>> inside; >>>>>>>>> the flavor is completely different than it was 20 years ago. And even >>>>>>>>> typing "20 years ago" about a mailing list feels weird. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know what to think about the Derrick May beefing -- I'm not >>>>>>>>> close enough to any of the principles in that fight to know what's >>>>>>>>> up. I'd >>>>>>>>> rather that the focus stay on music, and to my mind, it's been 30 >>>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>>> since Derrick May's really been musically relevant. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are loads of Detroit producers and DJs who are doing great >>>>>>>>> things now, and I think we've all been remiss to not amplify those >>>>>>>>> musicians. There are vital new voices like Ash Lauryn, who deserve >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> attention: >>>>>>>>> https://undergroundandblack.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And it's clear there's a lot of emotional upset and personal issues >>>>>>>>> that have spilled onto the list. I don't want to say that's not >>>>>>>>> appropriate content, but it should be in the context that we're a >>>>>>>>> group of >>>>>>>>> friends, widely dispersed geographically, with something in common.. >>>>>>>>> So keep >>>>>>>>> in mind you're talking to a friend, and they deserve respect even if >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> disagree with them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Lerato Khathi >>>> http://uzurirecordings.com >>>> http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com >>>> http://soundcloud.com/uzuri >>>> Skype : Lakuti >>>> >>> -- >> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >> ethnomusicologist >> schoolcraftwax.work >> > > >-- > >Lerato Khathi >http://uzurirecordings.com >http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com >http://soundcloud.com/uzuri >Skype : Lakuti >
