Appreciate the reply Jodie, I’m gonna go out on what I feel is not too far of a limb by saying you’re probably the only one here that sees her “apologies” as not being backhanded.
Please don’t deflect by trying to bring in women’s voices etc because that’s not the point we are discussing. She could have been any of the 100+ genders she probably believes in and it wouldn’t matter. If you can’t see that most here are doing their best to “tolerate” her then I don’t now what to tell you. We shouldn’t have to barely tolerate anyone here. Especially if they are not at least warned to change their tone. Speaking of Rick, spoke to him today about a conversation around a 3 chairs party here in SF. Has everyone here bought my new release yet?? :-) On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:42 AM U&I Design <uandidesigndetr...@gmail.com> wrote: > I havent chimed in yet, but seeing Joe's email has prompted me to. > > "We tried to respond respectfully at first..." Sorry, but I didn't see in > the emails to Denise that there was much respect being given, not at the > start or throughout. > > She did apologize for how she reacted and people have continued to go > after her. As for the comment that "if she was a guy she would've been > removed long ago" I have to disagree. I love Tom Cox and I loved the > heated debates he used to get in. Him and I had a few as well. I never got > so touchy that I thought he should be removed from the list. Those threads > and debates back then pushed the envelope much farther than any of the > emails I saw by her did. And in reality, there have been more emails > discussing this than there were that caused this discussion to begin. > > Her contribution to the music is undeniable and rather than just write her > off as being hostile, maybe everyone should take stock as to why and what > pushed her to become hostile in the first place. > > Removing someone that has contributed as much to the musuc as she has > would be a shame. > > Just my 2 cents. And Joe, I'm pretty sure Marcellus and Rick would agree > with me on this one. They love the voices of strong opinionated women in > the scene as much as I do. > > *Jodie > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 15:41 Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So I guess there’s the “two wrongs don’t make a right” argument vs “we >> tried to reply respectfully at first but she keeps replying with hostility >> while trying to justify her tone” >> >> What I replied earlier that wasn’t copied here in the group was asking >> why Kent would risk losing many for the sake of accommodating one. Makes >> no sense whatsoever. There are unwritten rules of conduct in each scenario >> which she’s clearly in violation of. >> >> Lastly I feel that if she was a dude she’d have been 86’d by now (or at >> least on a last warning regarding her tone). >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> attention: >>> >>>>>>>>> https://undergroundandblack.com/ >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> And it's clear there's a lot of emotional upset and personal >>> issues >>> >>>>>>>>> that have spilled onto the list. I don't want to say that's >>> not >>> >>>>>>>>> appropriate content, but it should be in the context that >>> we're a group of >>> >>>>>>>>> friends, widely dispersed geographically, with something in >>> common.. So keep >>> >>>>>>>>> in mind you're talking to a friend, and they deserve respect >>> even if you >>> >>>>>>>>> disagree with them. >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>> >>>>>>> ethnomusicologist >>> >>>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> -- >>> >>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>> >>>>> ethnomusicologist >>> >>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Lerato Khathi >>> >>>> http://uzurirecordings.com >>> >>>> http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com >>> >>>> http://soundcloud.com/uzuri >>> >>>> Skype : Lakuti >>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>> >> ethnomusicologist >>> >> schoolcraftwax.work >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >-- >>> > >>> >Lerato Khathi >>> >http://uzurirecordings.com >>> >http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com >>> >http://soundcloud.com/uzuri >>> >Skype : Lakuti >>> > >>> >>> >>>
