if they get the pricing down to ePMP I might think about switching.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I could be wrong (since I have no experience with LTE), but I think LTE is
> probably going to handle the weak clients better than 450 is.
>
> I don't see how it couldn't be at least somewhat of a trade-off with
> throughput, but I think the LTE stuff is optimized a lot better for weak
> clients than 450 is. I suspect that in a situation where every client is
> connected to a 450 AP at 1x or 2x, if you switched everything over to LTE,
> it will work a lot better... but on the other hand, if they're all running
> at 6x or 8x the 450 is probably going to perform better.
>
> I haven't seen any actual pricing for Baicells, but I'm guessing that if
> you get enough clients per AP it will be cheaper overall than 450.
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Isnt the NLOS performance a direct trade-off vs throughput though? I
>> remember when the Telrad guys were showing this link that was miles away
>> through all these trees connecting in the -80's and they were all excited
>> that it was still pushing 12mbps to that CPE. But at the expense of it was
>> consuming 100% of the AP's total resources (airtime) . So basically just
>> take a 450 AP and run every connected client in 1x or 2x mode and that will
>> be the same thing as trying to push an LTE system to the limits. Am I wrong?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NLOS
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 90mbps in a 20mhz Channel? That's what Cambium 450 could get 2 years
>>>> ago on a whole lot more solid software/firmware.
>>>>
>>>> So whats the advantages of the LTE? Is it going to be cheaper than the
>>>> Cambium 450? Is the license keys for SM throughput or can 1 SM do the full
>>>> speed?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Craig Schmaderer <
>>>> cr...@skywaveconnect.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have it.  They are letting me talk about it pass my nda.  Hardware
>>>>> so far is solid.   Software is very beta. Missing many key features needed
>>>>> for comerical deployment.  We are seeing about 90mb on 20mhz which is what
>>>>> is to be expected with R9 LTE.   I posted maybe a week ago on one of our
>>>>> links.  5ghz is on the road map.  Shoot me your questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig Schmaderer
>>>>> Cell 402-380-1245
>>>>> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:52 PM -0500, "Colin Stanners" <
>>>>> cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Like are you thinking against each other, or fighting Matt and Sriram
>>>>> from Cambium in one corner and Telrad ex-Mossad snipers in another?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:17 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I havent heard much from them lately, do you think rick and Patrick
>>>>>> ended up in a knife fight?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ban all Baicells 5 GHz.  Leave it to the cheap gear!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do they have any frequencies out there besides 3.65ghz? Are 5ghz
>>>>>>>> trials going on right now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear deployed?
>>>>>>>>> Care to comment on/off list?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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