Josh,

I remember them saying that the power levels where in a different format,
actually -110 was equal to -80 or something like that. Im refereeing to the
same -80 we are used to with UBNT/Cambium stuff.

Maybe the LTE's real advantage is if you have multiple sectors facing the
same direction on the tower. It can balance resources due to demands of the
subscribers that way. But back to single sector/AP of a 450 cambium vs
single sector LTE is there really much advantage if any at all?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> -80 dBm or -80 in the LTE measurement?  I know there are two different
> values and they vary greatly, but I'm not sure on the details.
>
> I don't believe the 12 meg would be the entire AP's capacity at that
> distance/range/signal, especially with LTE (think 1 bar on your cell phone
> not taking out the entire Verizon tower).
>
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Isnt the NLOS performance a direct trade-off vs throughput though? I
>> remember when the Telrad guys were showing this link that was miles away
>> through all these trees connecting in the -80's and they were all excited
>> that it was still pushing 12mbps to that CPE. But at the expense of it was
>> consuming 100% of the AP's total resources (airtime) . So basically just
>> take a 450 AP and run every connected client in 1x or 2x mode and that will
>> be the same thing as trying to push an LTE system to the limits. Am I wrong?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NLOS
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 90mbps in a 20mhz Channel? That's what Cambium 450 could get 2 years
>>>> ago on a whole lot more solid software/firmware.
>>>>
>>>> So whats the advantages of the LTE? Is it going to be cheaper than the
>>>> Cambium 450? Is the license keys for SM throughput or can 1 SM do the full
>>>> speed?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Craig Schmaderer <
>>>> cr...@skywaveconnect.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have it.  They are letting me talk about it pass my nda.  Hardware
>>>>> so far is solid.   Software is very beta. Missing many key features needed
>>>>> for comerical deployment.  We are seeing about 90mb on 20mhz which is what
>>>>> is to be expected with R9 LTE.   I posted maybe a week ago on one of our
>>>>> links.  5ghz is on the road map.  Shoot me your questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig Schmaderer
>>>>> Cell 402-380-1245
>>>>> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:52 PM -0500, "Colin Stanners" <
>>>>> cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Like are you thinking against each other, or fighting Matt and Sriram
>>>>> from Cambium in one corner and Telrad ex-Mossad snipers in another?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:17 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I havent heard much from them lately, do you think rick and Patrick
>>>>>> ended up in a knife fight?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ban all Baicells 5 GHz.  Leave it to the cheap gear!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do they have any frequencies out there besides 3.65ghz? Are 5ghz
>>>>>>>> trials going on right now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear deployed?
>>>>>>>>> Care to comment on/off list?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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