Losing tens of bytes is not a big deal for either throughput or transport. We're talking tenths of a percentage of bandwidth reduction.
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > Carrying a payload of 1500 bytes + headers means that your transport will > have to be able to do more than 1500 regardless. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, June 20, 2016 12:38:34 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Baicells - who's deployed it? > > I see no reason you couldn't just bridge a vlan into a VPLS tunnel on the > access router. > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> Transport VPLS + QinQ? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Monday, June 20, 2016 12:36:07 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Baicells - who's deployed it? >> >> I don't understand what advantage using 200B larger frames are for ISP >> access-side customers, considering you're going to have to mss clamp >> them down to 1500 for internet. >> >> Using 9000B frames in the datacenter is one thing due to the greatly >> decreased (~30% last I checked) CPU load on endpoints, but in ASIC >> based routers and switches it doesn't matter really. >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:30 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> >> wrote: >> > One advantage of the 450 is that we can move >1700 byte ethernet frames. >> > >> > On 6/20/2016 12:24 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> >> >> It's a continuously evolving standard with a well defined short a >> >> medium term upgrade path. Multi carrier aggregation, diverse uplink >> >> and downlink paths on different towers to a CPE, etc. Lots of cool >> >> stuff. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser >> >> >> >> <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> 90mbps in a 20mhz Channel? That's what Cambium 450 could get 2 years >> ago >> >>> on >> >>> a whole lot more solid software/firmware. >> >>> >> >>> So whats the advantages of the LTE? Is it going to be cheaper than the >> >>> Cambium 450? Is the license keys for SM throughput or can 1 SM do the >> >>> full >> >>> speed? >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Craig Schmaderer >> >>> <cr...@skywaveconnect.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> I have it. They are letting me talk about it pass my nda. Hardware >> so >> >>>> far is solid. Software is very beta. Missing many key features >> needed >> >>>> for >> >>>> comerical deployment. We are seeing about 90mb on 20mhz which is >> what >> >>>> is to >> >>>> be expected with R9 LTE. I posted maybe a week ago on one of our >> >>>> links. >> >>>> 5ghz is on the road map. Shoot me your questions. >> >>>> >> >>>> Craig Schmaderer >> >>>> Cell 402-380-1245 >> >>>> Skywave Wireless, Inc. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:52 PM -0500, "Colin Stanners" >> >>>> <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Like are you thinking against each other, or fighting Matt and Sriram >> >>>> from >> >>>> Cambium in one corner and Telrad ex-Mossad snipers in another? >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:17 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm >> >>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I havent heard much from them lately, do you think rick and Patrick >> >>>>> ended >> >>>>> up in a knife fight? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Josh Luthman >> >>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Ban all Baicells 5 GHz. Leave it to the cheap gear!!! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >> >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >> >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >> >>>>>> Suite 1337 >> >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Kurt Fankhauser >> >>>>>> <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Do they have any frequencies out there besides 3.65ghz? Are 5ghz >> >>>>>>> trials >> >>>>>>> going on right now? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman >> >>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear deployed? >> >>>>>>>> Care to comment on/off list? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >> >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >> >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >> >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >> >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >> >>>>> team >> >>>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> > >> >> > >