Good call on the VLANs George! I think that might be the ticket. That gives me something to try in our lab :)
-Sean On Thursday, August 18, 2016, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: > Does PC do the zero-touch config? Why can't a new SM come up and get the > option 66 info for the config URL, then download its config which contains > a static management IP? > > Or, what about separating things in VLANs? Put your SM management on a > dedicated VLAN with its own DHCP server instance and the various options > you need? Customer/user/data VLAN would be another DHCP server where you'd > act upon the Agent-Remote-ID option 82 info. > > On 8/18/2016 11:25 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > right now everything is static (mgmt and public ip) we try to deploy SMs > with NAT enabled but that's not possible half the time for one reason or > another. > > Once we move to powercode I want to use their zero touch config > (dhcp option 66) to config the SM and then option 82 if the SM is bridged > to give an ip to their router or our managed calix router. I'd prefer to > not have to keep track of router MACs especially if the router is the > customer's and not our calix. > > Powercode doesn't use RADIUS so I'd probably have to set that up on the > side or something. > > Like I said I want to make this as automagic as possible and I'm wondering > if anyone has already gone thru this so I don't have to reinvent the wheel. > > Powercode didn't have any ideas of how to accomplish this so maybe I'm > blazing a trail on the cutting edge :-/ > > -Sean > > On Thursday, August 18, 2016, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','geo...@cbcast.com');>> wrote: > >> I assume you're doing bridge mode? Use RADIUS to assign the SM's >> management IP. Then DHCP + Op 82 is used for the customer equipment. >> >> We just do static management IP on the SMs. Playing with NAT + DMZ on the >> customer side. Traceroute and other ICMP responses don't work through NAT >> mode, even with DMZ. And L2TP tunnels. I forget what else I tested on my SM >> at home. So far I'm not too thrilled with it. >> >> On 8/18/2016 10:08 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: >> >> Hummmm that's the conclusion we were coming to also. >> >> I'm trying to find a way to make it all automagic but that seems not >> possible :-/ >> >> -Sean >> >> >> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote: >> >>> From how I understand it that is not possible unless you plan on >>> managing via the public IP. >>> >>> Option 82, in its simplest form, just allows accounting via the SU mac >>> address, along with what 'circuit' (AP) it came from. I think in your >>> situation if you want to use powercode to hand out public addresses you >>> will need a static management network for CPEs. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>> >>>> Thx joe, >>>> >>>> So if it sends the same 0a:00:3e MAC for the bridged device, how do you >>>> get the dhcp server to send the management IP to the SM since that would be >>>> the same MAC?? >>>> >>>> -Sean >>>> >>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sean, >>>>> >>>>> No problem! >>>>> >>>>> Cambium 450/EPMP behave the same way I am pretty sure without looking >>>>> at my notes. This post describes it perfectly and also has a raw dump of >>>>> the dhcp request: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/DHC >>>>> P-Opt-82/td-p/39636 >>>>> >>>>> OPTION: 82 ( 29) Relay Agent Information >>>>> Circuit-ID 0a:00:3e:XX:XX:XX #AP MAC >>>>> Remote-ID 0a:00:3e:YY:YY:YY #SU Wireless MAC >>>>> >>>>> That means that even if the client is in bridge mode the only mac >>>>> address you need to track is the subscriber unit. I do not know any >>>>> powercode specific stuff but I am looking at implementing with DHCP ISC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey joe, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah we are mocking it up in our lab right now. Mainly need to know >>>>>> what MAC gets sent for all the different interfaces - management, NAT >>>>>> enabled, bridged etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Powercode will only let you add one IP and MAC per device. Since we >>>>>> are in the process of importing all our data for the migration to PC I'd >>>>>> like to set it all up now to be ready for option 82 in the future ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe, do you mind if our network engineer Elijah contacts you off >>>>>> list?? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sean >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I plan on implementing it with cambium both 450/epmp. Any specific >>>>>>> questions? I learned a lot by taking a setting up a dhcp server with >>>>>>> whatever verbose logging turned on and watching the requests. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016 8:13 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm almost certain someone does... But I'm not 100% >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016 8:51 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Powercode said they had never done it and didn't know anyone who >>>>>>>>> had. (I was kinda surprised at that response) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Figured I'd check to see if y'all had used it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Sean >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have you contacted Powercode about this or no? I figure they'd >>>>>>>>>> know, their wisp is Canopy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016 8:35 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We are in the process of migrating to powercode...it's not an >>>>>>>>>>> easy task but I think it will be well worth it. Lots of details to >>>>>>>>>>> figure >>>>>>>>>>> out lol. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -Sean >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You moved to powercode!!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tushar >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > On Aug 18, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Hey gang, >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Any experts out there have experience with DHCP option 82 + >>>>>>>>>>>> Canopy + Powercode? If so can I pick your brain??? >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Sean >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
