I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain
some illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop
about Android vs iPhones the other day, so thought I'd better start
talking to some humans rather than my cat..
On 10/6/2016 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
LOL. I'll consider a demo, but I'll pester their support staff about
config.
I'd rather you spend your time on Sonar. What are you doing chatting
on this mailing list anyway? Get back to work man!
------ Original Message ------
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software
<mailto:simon@sonar.software>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that, some
solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton of tools.
They'll send you an eval unit for 30 days to try out, so it's pretty
easy to see if it works for you. Let me know if you want to give one
a shot and I can set it up for you.
On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. It's more about people
who's monthly usage exceeds 600GB.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software
<mailto:simon@sonar.software>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of 'magic' in there, like
linking together initial non-HTTPS lookups to trackers, and then
tying them to subsequent HTTPS connections. The biggest problem
with torrenters is that some portion of them are smart enough to
use a VPN, which leaves you with little recourse. But you're
probably not getting any DMCA complaints about them anyway..
On 10/6/2016 11:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
That's good to know.
Can it reliably tag and limit torrent traffic?
I've been looking at methods to do that in Mikrotik and a lot of
the mangle rule examples I see online don't actually work
(anymore?) and the ones that do work seem too broad for comfort.
I don't know if it's a $17,000 problem, but it's a problem I keep
getting asked about.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software
<mailto:simon@sonar.software>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it. You end up paying
list on most of the licensing, and they won't support the
hardware if it fails. They EOL the hardware every 5 years or so
as well (it's still supported for a while afterwards, but that's
the typical cycle,) so you generally want to be buying a newer
chassis.
Sometimes it's worth buying a used one, especially if it's a
bigger chassis, but it generally doesn't make sense.
On 10/6/2016 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I lost track of whether the license transferal issue was with
Barracuda or Procera or both.
Could I buy a pre-chewed Procera and then just buy the support
contract/license for it?
------ Original Message ------
From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
To: mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
You can't buy a unit that was original purchased by one
company, sell it to another company and then they get a new
license. Basically, if I bought Gino's unit, I would have to
pay him and he would pay Barracuda.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Is that because you didn’t have a service contract with them?
Just curious … or is it that their license is non transferable
same as some other companies (ie. Cisco)
On Oct 6, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Rory Conaway
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
And they won't let you transfer it to another company either.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:03 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
No we tried to reactivate a license on a unit we
decommissioned and they charged us pretty much the full price
as if it were brand new.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:00:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Unfortunately they won’t let me transfer license or we would
be talking.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino
Villarini
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:53 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I have a base unit for sale , offf list for more details...
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Rory Conaway
<rory@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
That's not bad. Barracuda costs more than that for a Gig.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af
[mailto:af-bounces@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:24 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum
to start.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Moffett"
<dmmoffett@gmail.commailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: "af" <af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:16:36 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Procera costs
What's the lower end Procera appliance cost? Are there
recurring costs?
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Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
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The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software/
--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---------------------------
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software/
--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---------------------------
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software
--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
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Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software
