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Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software> wrote: > You've discovered my secret identity > > On 10/6/2016 12:48 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Wait, is this you? > > https://simonscat.com/ > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Simon Westlake > *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > > > I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain some > illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop about > Android vs iPhones the other day, so thought I'd better start talking to > some humans rather than my cat.. > > On 10/6/2016 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > LOL. I'll consider a demo, but I'll pester their support staff about > config. > I'd rather you spend your time on Sonar. What are you doing chatting on > this mailing list anyway? Get back to work man! > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> > > To: af@afmug.com > > Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > > > You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that, some > solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton of tools. They'll > send you an eval unit for 30 days to try out, so it's pretty easy to see if > it works for you. Let me know if you want to give one a shot and I can set > it up for you. > > On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. It's more about people who's > monthly usage exceeds 600GB. > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> > > To: af@afmug.com > > Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > > > To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of 'magic' in there, like linking > together initial non-HTTPS lookups to trackers, and then tying them to > subsequent HTTPS connections. The biggest problem with torrenters is that > some portion of them are smart enough to use a VPN, which leaves you with > little recourse. But you're probably not getting any DMCA complaints about > them anyway.. > > On 10/6/2016 11:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > That's good to know. > > Can it reliably tag and limit torrent traffic? > > > > I've been looking at methods to do that in Mikrotik and a lot of the > mangle rule examples I see online don't actually work (anymore?) and the > ones that do work seem too broad for comfort. I don't know if it's a > $17,000 problem, but it's a problem I keep getting asked about. > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> > > To: af@afmug.com > > Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > > > Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it. You end up paying list on > most of the licensing, and they won't support the hardware if it fails. > They EOL the hardware every 5 years or so as well (it's still supported for > a while afterwards, but that's the typical cycle,) so you generally want to > be buying a newer chassis. > > Sometimes it's worth buying a used one, especially if it's a bigger > chassis, but it generally doesn't make sense. > > On 10/6/2016 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I lost track of whether the license transferal issue was with Barracuda or > Procera or both. > Could I buy a pre-chewed Procera and then just buy the support > contract/license for it? > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net > <r...@triadwireless.net> > To: mailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com> mailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com> > Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > > You can't buy a unit that was original purchased by one company, sell it > to another company and then they get a new license. Basically, if I bought > Gino's unit, I would have to pay him and he would pay Barracuda. > > Rory > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf > Of Paul Stewart > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:41 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > Is that because you didn’t have a service contract with them? Just > curious … or is it that their license is non transferable same as some > other companies (ie. Cisco) > > > On Oct 6, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net > <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: > > And they won't let you transfer it to another company either. > > Rory > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf > Of Steve > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:03 AM > To: af > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > No we tried to reactivate a license on a unit we decommissioned and they > charged us pretty much the full price as if it were brand new. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net > <r...@triadwireless.net> > To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:00:27 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > Unfortunately they won’t let me transfer license or we would be talking. > > Rory > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf > Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:53 AM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > I have a base unit for sale , offf list for more details... > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net > mailto:r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: > That's not bad. Barracuda costs more than that for a Gig. > > Rory > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>ma > ilto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Steve > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:24 AM > To: af > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum to start. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoffett@gmail.commailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com > <dmmoff...@gmail.com>> > To: "af" <af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com>> > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:16:36 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > What's the lower end Procera appliance cost? Are there recurring costs? > > > > > > > > -- > > Simon Westlake > > Skype: Simon_Sonar > > Email: simon@sonar.software > > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > > --------------------------- > > Sonar Software Inc > > The next generation of ISP billing and OSS > > https://sonar.software/ > > > > -- > > Simon Westlake > > Skype: Simon_Sonar > > Email: simon@sonar.software > > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > > --------------------------- > > Sonar Software Inc > > The next generation of ISP billing and OSS > > https://sonar.software/ > > > > -- > > Simon Westlake > > Skype: Simon_Sonar > > Email: simon@sonar.software > > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > > --------------------------- > > Sonar Software Inc > > The next generation of ISP billing and OSS > > https://sonar.software > > > > -- > > Simon Westlake > > Skype: Simon_Sonar > > Email: simon@sonar.software > > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > > --------------------------- > > Sonar Software Inc > > The next generation of ISP billing and OSS > > https://sonar.software > > > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_Sonar > Email: simon@sonar.software > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software > >
