Seisei will be at the show. On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
> Anybody used these guys I know they have gone to a few shows. > > http://saisei.com/ > > > > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > er...@northcentraltower.com > Office: 630-621-4804 > Cell: 630-777-9291 > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software> > wrote: > >> You've discovered my secret identity >> >> On 10/6/2016 12:48 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> Wait, is this you? >> >> https://simonscat.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Simon Westlake >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:37 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> >> >> I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain >> some illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop >> about Android vs iPhones the other day, so thought I'd better start talking >> to some humans rather than my cat.. >> >> On 10/6/2016 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> LOL. I'll consider a demo, but I'll pester their support staff about >> config. >> I'd rather you spend your time on Sonar. What are you doing chatting on >> this mailing list anyway? Get back to work man! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> >> >> You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that, some >> solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton of tools. They'll >> send you an eval unit for 30 days to try out, so it's pretty easy to see if >> it works for you. Let me know if you want to give one a shot and I can set >> it up for you. >> >> On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. It's more about people who's >> monthly usage exceeds 600GB. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> >> >> To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of 'magic' in there, like linking >> together initial non-HTTPS lookups to trackers, and then tying them to >> subsequent HTTPS connections. The biggest problem with torrenters is that >> some portion of them are smart enough to use a VPN, which leaves you with >> little recourse. But you're probably not getting any DMCA complaints about >> them anyway.. >> >> On 10/6/2016 11:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> That's good to know. >> >> Can it reliably tag and limit torrent traffic? >> >> >> >> I've been looking at methods to do that in Mikrotik and a lot of the >> mangle rule examples I see online don't actually work (anymore?) and the >> ones that do work seem too broad for comfort. I don't know if it's a >> $17,000 problem, but it's a problem I keep getting asked about. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> >> >> Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it. You end up paying list on >> most of the licensing, and they won't support the hardware if it fails. >> They EOL the hardware every 5 years or so as well (it's still supported for >> a while afterwards, but that's the typical cycle,) so you generally want to >> be buying a newer chassis. >> >> Sometimes it's worth buying a used one, especially if it's a bigger >> chassis, but it generally doesn't make sense. >> >> On 10/6/2016 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> I lost track of whether the license transferal issue was with Barracuda >> or Procera or both. >> Could I buy a pre-chewed Procera and then just buy the support >> contract/license for it? >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net >> <r...@triadwireless.net> >> To: mailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com> mailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com> >> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> >> You can't buy a unit that was original purchased by one company, sell it >> to another company and then they get a new license. Basically, if I bought >> Gino's unit, I would have to pay him and he would pay Barracuda. >> >> Rory >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf >> Of Paul Stewart >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:41 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> Is that because you didn’t have a service contract with them? Just >> curious … or is it that their license is non transferable same as some >> other companies (ie. Cisco) >> >> >> On Oct 6, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net >> <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >> >> And they won't let you transfer it to another company either. >> >> Rory >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf >> Of Steve >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:03 AM >> To: af >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> No we tried to reactivate a license on a unit we decommissioned and they >> charged us pretty much the full price as if it were brand new. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net >> <r...@triadwireless.net> >> To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:00:27 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> Unfortunately they won’t let me transfer license or we would be talking. >> >> Rory >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf >> Of Gino Villarini >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:53 AM >> To: Animal Farm >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> I have a base unit for sale , offf list for more details... >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net >> mailto:r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: >> That's not bad. Barracuda costs more than that for a Gig. >> >> Rory >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>ma >> ilto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Steve >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:24 AM >> To: af >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum to start. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoffett@gmail.commailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com >> <dmmoff...@gmail.com>> >> To: "af" <af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com>> >> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:16:36 AM >> Subject: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> >> What's the lower end Procera appliance cost? Are there recurring costs? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Simon Westlake >> >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> >> Email: simon@sonar.software >> >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Sonar Software Inc >> >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >> >> https://sonar.software/ >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Simon Westlake >> >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> >> Email: simon@sonar.software >> >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Sonar Software Inc >> >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >> >> https://sonar.software/ >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Simon Westlake >> >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> >> Email: simon@sonar.software >> >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Sonar Software Inc >> >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >> >> https://sonar.software >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Simon Westlake >> >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> >> Email: simon@sonar.software >> >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Sonar Software Inc >> >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >> >> https://sonar.software >> >> >> -- >> Simon Westlake >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> Email: simon@sonar.software >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> --------------------------- >> Sonar Software Inc >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software >> >> >
