You've discovered my secret identity
On 10/6/2016 12:48 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Wait, is this you?
https://simonscat.com/
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon Westlake
*Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain
some illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop
about Android vs iPhones the other day, so thought I'd better start
talking to some humans rather than my cat..
On 10/6/2016 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
LOL. I'll consider a demo, but I'll pester their support staff
about config.
I'd rather you spend your time on Sonar. What are you doing
chatting on this mailing list anyway? Get back to work man!
------ Original Message ------
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software
<mailto:simon@sonar.software>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that,
some solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton
of tools. They'll send you an eval unit for 30 days to try
out, so it's pretty easy to see if it works for you. Let me
know if you want to give one a shot and I can set it up for you.
On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. It's more
about people who's monthly usage exceeds 600GB.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software
<mailto:simon@sonar.software>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of 'magic' in
there, like linking together initial non-HTTPS lookups
to trackers, and then tying them to subsequent HTTPS
connections. The biggest problem with torrenters is
that some portion of them are smart enough to use a
VPN, which leaves you with little recourse. But you're
probably not getting any DMCA complaints about them
anyway..
On 10/6/2016 11:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
That's good to know.
Can it reliably tag and limit torrent traffic?
I've been looking at methods to do that in
Mikrotik and a lot of the mangle rule examples I
see online don't actually work (anymore?) and the
ones that do work seem too broad for comfort. I
don't know if it's a $17,000 problem, but it's a
problem I keep getting asked about.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software
<mailto:simon@sonar.software>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it.
You end up paying list on most of the
licensing, and they won't support the hardware
if it fails. They EOL the hardware every 5
years or so as well (it's still supported for
a while afterwards, but that's the typical
cycle,) so you generally want to be buying a
newer chassis.
Sometimes it's worth buying a used one,
especially if it's a bigger chassis, but it
generally doesn't make sense.
On 10/6/2016 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I lost track of whether the license
transferal issue was with Barracuda or
Procera or both.
Could I buy a pre-chewed Procera and then
just buy the support contract/license for it?
------ Original Message ------
From: "Rory Conaway"
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
To: mailto:af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
You can't buy a unit that was original
purchased by one company, sell it to
another company and then they get a
new license. Basically, if I bought
Gino's unit, I would have to pay him
and he would pay Barracuda.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Is that because you didn’t have a
service contract with them? Just
curious … or is it that their license
is non transferable same as some other
companies (ie. Cisco)
On Oct 6, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Rory
Conaway
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
And they won't let you transfer
it to another company either.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016
8:03 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
No we tried to reactivate a
license on a unit we
decommissioned and they charged us
pretty much the full price as if
it were brand new.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rory Conaway"
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016
11:00:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Unfortunately they won’t let me
transfer license or we would be
talking.
Rory
From: Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016
7:53 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I have a base unit for sale ,
offf list for more details...
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM,
Rory Conaway
<r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:
That's not bad. Barracuda costs
more than that for a Gig.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af
[mailto:af-bounces@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016
7:24 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Arm, Leg and throw in some
fingers.. Expect $15k minimum to
start.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Moffett"
<dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016
10:16:36 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Procera costs
What's the lower end Procera
appliance cost? Are there
recurring costs?
--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software <mailto:simon@sonar.software>
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---------------------------
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The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software/
--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software <mailto:simon@sonar.software>
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---------------------------
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software/
--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software <mailto:simon@sonar.software>
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---------------------------
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software <https://sonar.software/>
--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software <mailto:simon@sonar.software>
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---------------------------
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software
--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---------------------------
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software
