He's not asking for anything special, other than the ratecenter he wants 
covered. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:37:36 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers 


NetSapiens does software. We have about 25 NXX's assigned to us. There is no 
way a standard voip provider can do what you want Chuck. You have to have 
somebody with an A-Z code and class 5 switch like you have. You then have to 
reassign that block to that switch. You then have to route that to something 
that can turn it into voip. Your switch can I guess, I am sure you know. If 
outside your LATA you have to pay mileage. I think you are the only one in your 
LATA right? 
Anyway. Call me If you want to talk about it Chuck. I saw someone on a voip 
list asking how to do this and describing your exact circumstances. I am 
guessing you talked to someone about it today. 


On Wed, May 31, 2017, 11:20 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




NetSapiens does equipment, not service. 






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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 








From: "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:10:23 AM 



Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers 


CTI uses NetSapiens as do some others. They are a bit more expensive than some 
alternatives but if they do what they said they would do (handle 100% of all 
porting) that can be worth a bit depending on how big an ass your losing 
carrier wants to be. If this is going to be a main revenue source I would tell 
you to go ahead and go direct to NS. If not, probably a pretty good deal. 
Others on this list, Like Chuck Bender, might make you a better deal depending 
on what you want. 


I don't do any residential but a key to VoIP success up front is to limit the 
number of devices you support. I choose to only support 3 phones and one fax. I 
don't do ATA's at all. Trunks I handle with Adtran only. 










On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:58 AM Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 





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I am using the CTI white label solution and it is very reliable, biggest plus 
is no hardware and servers to maintain in my office. Its all cloud based. 


On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
wrote: 

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I waited for Ooma since last WISPAPALOOZA. Finally gave up and partnered with a 
company last week. 

Rory 



-----Original Message----- 
From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Rob Genovesi 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:48 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers 

Ooma has launched a partnership programs with ISPs. It's not fully white label 
as it requires the customer to use Ooma equipment (which means you can't use 
your own ATA). An interesting option for anyone looking to add VOIP service 
without any overhead. 

We're not doing this (yet) but have talked to Ooma a few times. If you want 
more info contact Tim Sullivan: tim.sulli...@ooma.com . 



Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner 
650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA 


On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 
> OK, then quote me white label hosted voip. 
> 
> From: Eric Kuhnke 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:27 PM 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers 
> 
> Okay so that's not wholesale voip as telecom sales people would 
> usually define it. Wholesale usually meaning you connect your own SIP 
> server and run the traffic through a trunk, or set of trunks to 
> different providers based on optimal routing to destination. What 
> you're looking for is usually called white label hosted voip. 
> 
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 
>> 
>> Each ATA will register to the VOIP supplier. 
>> 
>> No, I already have a VoIP server called a GenBand Class 5 central 
>> office switch. 
>> I will not be using that for this service. 
>> 
>> From: Eric Kuhnke 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:59 PM 
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers 
>> 
>> I think you may misunderstand VoIP.... This is a gross 
>> oversimplification but in general an ATA speaks analog POTS/dialtone 
>> on one side, and ethernet/IP and SIP on the other. Do you intend to 
>> have each the ATAs connect individually, directly to the service 
>> provider, or do you plan to run your own VoIP server which they will 
>> register to? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Not looking for SIP trunking. The calls will come from and go to an 
>>> ATA in the subscribers home. 
>>> 
>>> From: Eric Kuhnke 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:47 PM 
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers 
>>> 
>>> How many DIDs and how many minutes/month of SIP trunking are we 
>>> talking about? You're looking for a whoelsale SIP trunking provider 
>>> to use with your own VoIP system, or you want it fully hosted? 
>>> 
>>> What kind of monthly spend are you looking at if you took all of 
>>> your minutes/month and figured that via wholesale SIP trunk they 
>>> might cost an average of 7/10ths of 1 cent per minute (0.007/min)? 
>>> 
>>> Voxbeam, Flowroute and Voip Innovations come to mind. 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> I need a wholesale voip provider to serve my ILEC territory in 
>>>> Utah. I would port my local 801-789 numbers to the VOIP provider. 
>>>> 
>>>> We need unlimited LD and solid 911. Would prefer someone local. 
>>>> 
>>>> So, before I give XMission a call I thought I would put this out there. 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 




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