But if you have a CLEC you *CAN* place it there. If I don't have a
CLEC I *MAY* place it there... if whomever owns that easement or
property allows me to.
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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:03:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
If you do not have an easement, you do not have the right to keep
your cable there. Most easements I get are free.
From:Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:02 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
Sure, easements are insurance, but not always cheap.
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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:54:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
CLEC is no insurance.
ROW-Easement is insurance.
From:Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:50 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
A couple thousand dollars for an attorney to make you a CLEC is
pretty cheap insurance when doling out fiber.
The major impediment to more providers and more expansion of
existing providers is that the bits moved typically aren't
significantly different. As long as most things generally work,
people aren't going to leave. If Netflix buffers constantly, your
marketing becomes a lot easier, "Our Netflix actually works."
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From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:46:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
We did at our fiber company.
I don't remember the exact percentage, but I do remember it being
above 60% of people only have access to a single provider.
If you remove the ROW access for BIAS providers, lower "broadband"
to 10M, and allow providers to throttle other content, the odds are
so overwhelmingly stacked against new regional ISPs, existing
providers who just haven't expanded yet, and the general population
of this country... And solely provides more welfare to expand the
existing cable and Telco monopolies.
On Sep 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
You're wrong. :-p
Did anyone actually utilize that ROW access under NN and not
something else like being a CLEC? Spend a couple thousand bucks and
you're a CLEC, if you need to be in your jurisdiction for ROW
access. Around here you can just apply and get the ROW access you
desire.
They weren't directly throttled, but yes, ran through congested
peering and transit. So what if they do? Business choice. That
gives you or me the opportunity to come through with Netflix that
doesn't suck and steal the customer.
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From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:33:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
If I'm wrong, say so, but NN seems to be the only thing keep
providers from throttling down third party eyeball content to
prioritize their own.
Also, that ROW access many of us enjoyed as BIAS providers was tied
to that as well.
My memory is fuzzy though.
On Sep 28, 2017 7:23 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
The only way forward is to repeal Net Neutrality.
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From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:30:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are
not.
Also, as consumers, if net neutrality is repealed we are fucked.
On Sep 27, 2017 8:27 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16374136/ajit-pai-fcc-net-neutrality-isp
<https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16374136/ajit-pai-fcc-net-neutrality-isp>
I pretty much had to quit reading when this idiot sated what the
FCCs job is