No, I don’t have a CLEC for the non reg stuff.  

You always have to get permission from the property owner, it may be a public 
street but the city still has to grant an excavation or together permit.  

Many times there is a public utility easement around private property that you 
can occupy.  

The FCC made all BIAS providers public utilities in spirit.  While that 
particular document may no longer be in effect, you can still point to the 
language and use it.  If you get the permit you are golden.  None of this 
requires a CLEC.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

But if you have a CLEC you *CAN* place it there. If I don't have a CLEC I *MAY* 
place it there... if whomever owns that easement or property allows me to.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP






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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:03:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?


If you do not have an easement, you do not have the right to keep your cable 
there.  Most easements I get are free.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

Sure, easements are insurance, but not always cheap.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP






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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:54:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?


CLEC is no insurance.  
ROW-Easement is insurance.  



From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

A couple thousand dollars for an attorney to make you a CLEC is pretty cheap 
insurance when doling out fiber.

The major impediment to more providers and more expansion of existing providers 
is that the bits moved typically aren't significantly different. As long as 
most things generally work, people aren't going to leave. If Netflix buffers 
constantly, your marketing becomes a lot easier, "Our Netflix actually works."




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP






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From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:46:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?


We did at our fiber company. 

I don't remember the exact percentage, but I do remember it being above 60% of 
people only have access to a single provider.

If you remove the ROW access for BIAS providers, lower "broadband" to 10M, and 
allow providers to throttle other content, the odds are so overwhelmingly 
stacked against new regional ISPs, existing providers who just haven't expanded 
yet, and the general population of this country... And solely provides more 
welfare to expand the existing cable and Telco monopolies.




On Sep 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

  You're wrong.  :-p

  Did anyone actually utilize that ROW access under NN and not something else 
like being a CLEC? Spend a couple thousand bucks and you're a CLEC, if you need 
to be in your jurisdiction for ROW access. Around here you can just apply and 
get the ROW access you desire.

  They weren't directly throttled, but yes, ran through congested peering and 
transit. So what if they do? Business choice. That gives you or me the 
opportunity to come through with Netflix that doesn't suck and steal the 
customer. 





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  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






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  From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
  To: af@afmug.com

  Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:33:20 AM 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?


  If I'm wrong, say so, but NN seems to be the only thing keep providers from 
throttling down third party eyeball content to prioritize their own. 

  Also, that ROW access many of us enjoyed as BIAS providers was tied to that 
as well.

  My memory is fuzzy though.

  On Sep 28, 2017 7:23 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

    The only way forward is to repeal Net Neutrality.




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    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions

    Midwest Internet Exchange

    The Brothers WISP






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    From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
    To: af@afmug.com
    Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:30:44 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?


    There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are not. 

    Also, as consumers, if net neutrality is repealed we are fucked.

    On Sep 27, 2017 8:27 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

      
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16374136/ajit-pai-fcc-net-neutrality-isp 


      I pretty much had to quit reading when this idiot sated what the FCCs job 
is





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